Yeah, that is not going to happen. The momentum that EVs have at the moment, I would be surprised if there even is a mainstream ICE car available in 2035.
Wyoming senators want to phase out sales of EVs
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#12The stated goal, according to the legislators proposing this, is to "ensure the stability" of the oil and gas industry. Humankind's ability to reach new heights of stupidity never ceases to amaze me.
It's a hilarious and performative fall from grace from those who idolize free markets, say the government should not "pick winners", and rail against the nanny state.
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#13>The proliferation of electric vehicles at the expense of gas-powered vehicles will have deleterious impacts on … the ability for the country to efficiently engage in commerce.
Literal nonsense. Surely countries efficiently engaging in commerce don’t need artificial controls on which products they can and can’t sell
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#14Performative legislation by the party you think would do such a thing but imagine if they actually passed it. What happens when it's illegal to buy the only cars that are available for sale?
Definitely performative, just like the similar legislation by nation states and US states trying to make internal combustion cars illegal. California has the infrastructure and population all squeezed into valleys/coastlines combined with very temperate climate making it perfect for EVs. Wyoming has it's population spread out equally everywhere and has little EV infrastructure and terribly cold climate. But neither o…
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Re: Wyoming senators want to phase out sales of EVs
#15Performative legislation by the party you think would do such a thing but imagine if they actually passed it. What happens when it's illegal to buy the only cars that are available for sale?
Definitely performative, just like the similar legislation by nation states and US states trying to make internal combustion cars illegal. California has the infrastructure and population all squeezed into valleys/coastlines combined with very temperate climate making it perfect for EVs. Wyoming has it's population spread out equally everywhere and has little EV infrastructure and terribly cold climate. But neither o…
The situations are quite different. For one, California's laws do actually influence the auto manufacturing sector. They're typically the tip of the spear when it comes to things like emissions standards. Because the state represents such a big part of the auto buying market, it's usually easier for manufacturers to go along with the regulations (rather than introducing separate supply chains for vehicles sold in various states).
Re: Wyoming senators want to phase out sales of EVs
#16The stated goal, according to the legislators proposing this, is to "ensure the stability" of the oil and gas industry. Humankind's ability to reach new heights of stupidity never ceases to amaze me.
It's a hilarious and performative fall from grace from those who idolize free markets, say the government should not "pick winners", and rail against the nanny state.
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#17The stated goal, according to the legislators proposing this, is to "ensure the stability" of the oil and gas industry. Humankind's ability to reach new heights of stupidity never ceases to amaze me.
It's a hilarious and performative fall from grace from those who idolize free markets, say the government should not "pick winners", and rail against the nanny state.
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Doesn't matter, most big car OEMs are going to stop ICE production somewhere around he 2035 mark anyway, whether there are laws or not. Doesn't mean it illegal to own old ICE vehicles so, just that there won't any new ones being sold anymore.
I very much doubt this will happen. Toyota announced it will continue to produce ICE cars, and other major manufacturers will walk back their vague "goals" once the utopian goals are revealed to be impractical. Or perhaps the goals will just keep getting pushed forward and there will be lip service paid to them during the annual Davos conferences. Several US automakers may not make it, though. They are long past thei…
Scroll down to the part of my below citation where each jurisdiction is identified with new combustion vehicle sales bans. This forces auto supply chains to reconfigure or die.
Some jurisdictions might walk their bans back, but you only require a critical mass of the total addressable market to stick to it for it to remain effective. “As California goes, so goes the nation.” and all the jazz.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phase-out_of_fossil_fuel_vehic...
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#19Funny how this is an outrage, but the opposite is totally cool. I assume they are just pointing out this blatant hypocrisy with this move :)
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#20The stated goal, according to the legislators proposing this, is to "ensure the stability" of the oil and gas industry. Humankind's ability to reach new heights of stupidity never ceases to amaze me.
This a case where I would support to elect ChatGPT as next Governor of Wyoming...