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Wyoming senators want to phase out sales of EVs

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Re: Wyoming senators want to phase out sales of EVs

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I am sure that will work, a state with a population less than a tiny neighborhood in New York City thinking this will make an impact, good luck with that :)

Also I do not know how they can stop the creation of charging stations. IIRC, Biden wants to pepper Interstate highways with charging stations. So at the very least, there will still be stations in WY no matter what that bill says.

Re: Wyoming senators want to phase out sales of EVs

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Performative legislation by the party you think would do such a thing but imagine if they actually passed it. What happens when it's illegal to buy the only cars that are available for sale?

Definitely performative, just like the similar legislation by nation states and US states trying to make internal combustion cars illegal.

California has the infrastructure and population all squeezed into valleys/coastlines combined with very temperate climate making it perfect for EVs. Wyoming has it's population spread out equally everywhere and has little EV infrastructure and terribly cold climate.

But neither of these states should be trying to pass these silly laws just to highlight their respective situations.

Re: Wyoming senators want to phase out sales of EVs

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Performative legislation by the party you think would do such a thing but imagine if they actually passed it. What happens when it's illegal to buy the only cars that are available for sale?

Definitely performative, just like the similar legislation by nation states and US states trying to make internal combustion cars illegal. California has the infrastructure and population all squeezed into valleys/coastlines combined with very temperate climate making it perfect for EVs. Wyoming has it's population spread out equally everywhere and has little EV infrastructure and terribly cold climate. But neither o…

Doesn't matter, most big car OEMs are going to stop ICE production somewhere around he 2035 mark anyway, whether there are laws or not.

Doesn't mean it illegal to own old ICE vehicles so, just that there won't any new ones being sold anymore.

Re: Wyoming senators want to phase out sales of EVs

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Performative legislation by the party you think would do such a thing but imagine if they actually passed it. What happens when it's illegal to buy the only cars that are available for sale?

Definitely performative, just like the similar legislation by nation states and US states trying to make internal combustion cars illegal. California has the infrastructure and population all squeezed into valleys/coastlines combined with very temperate climate making it perfect for EVs. Wyoming has it's population spread out equally everywhere and has little EV infrastructure and terribly cold climate. But neither o…

Combustion emissions are terrible in California due to them being held over population centers, caused by mountain geography and prevailing winds. It makes sense for them to encourage EV uptake and outlaw new combustion vehicle sales. Air pollution kills, this science is settled. They also, on average, generate roughly half of their daily electrical demands from solar (per CAISO and ElectricityMap.org).

Wyoming has no excuse. It’s willful ignorance attempting to protect a dying industry. They’re attempting the same with their coal industry, so it’s not unexpected, just disappointing.

https://trib.com/business/energy/demand-for-wyoming-coal-is-...

Re: Wyoming senators want to phase out sales of EVs

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Around this time last year there were only 460 EVs registered in Wyoming: https://www.wyomingnews.com/rawlinstimes/news/charging-forwa...

Most EVs in the state are visitors and the highways are going to be electrified anyway. This is going to do nothing to save the oil and gas industry.

Re: Wyoming senators want to phase out sales of EVs

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I am sure that will work, a state with a population less than a tiny neighborhood in New York City thinking this will make an impact, good luck with that :) Also I do not know how they can stop the creation of charging stations. IIRC, Biden wants to pepper Interstate highways with charging stations. So at the very least, there will still be stations in WY no matter what that bill says.

They still have the same number on Senators, don't they?

Re: Wyoming senators want to phase out sales of EVs

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Definitely performative, just like the similar legislation by nation states and US states trying to make internal combustion cars illegal. California has the infrastructure and population all squeezed into valleys/coastlines combined with very temperate climate making it perfect for EVs. Wyoming has it's population spread out equally everywhere and has little EV infrastructure and terribly cold climate. But neither o…

Doesn't matter, most big car OEMs are going to stop ICE production somewhere around he 2035 mark anyway, whether there are laws or not. Doesn't mean it illegal to own old ICE vehicles so, just that there won't any new ones being sold anymore.

I very much doubt this will happen. Toyota announced it will continue to produce ICE cars, and other major manufacturers will walk back their vague "goals" once the utopian goals are revealed to be impractical. Or perhaps the goals will just keep getting pushed forward and there will be lip service paid to them during the annual Davos conferences.

Several US automakers may not make it, though. They are long past their sell by date anyways, and will probably go out of business after abandoning ICE production.

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