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Re: Want a Viking funeral? Only state that allows it is Colorado

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Post by culi »

dsfyu404ed wrote: post #57
culi wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

as pointed out in the source > although it is clear in some places that inaccuracies and Ibn Fadlan's own prejudices have slanted the account to some extent. Seems a bit silly to believe she volunteered for that while also stating that there's "no way to know anything clearly" (except possibly the most absurd part?)

>Seems a bit silly to believe she volunteered for that People volunteered for some weird shit back in the day. Their morals and beliefs are nothing like ours.

you don't think it's at all likely that her life as a slave was so misreable this could've been a way out?

regardless my point is it's silly to try to reconcile "we can't know anything" with this one details they pulled out. Like why is the single detail that somehow is credible?

Re: Want a Viking funeral? Only state that allows it is Colorado

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Post by sul_tasto »

culi wrote: post #43
asdff wrote: post #23

Only 5 states let you compost your body.

> California is the fifth state to legalize the practice, following Colorado, Oregon, Vermont and Washington. Under the law, human composting will be allowed starting in 2027. The process involves placing human remains in a steel box with biodegradable materials, which help the body naturally decompose. A steel box? What if I want a tree to grow out of my organs?

It sounds like funeral homes lobbied for the steel box part.

Re: Want a Viking funeral? Only state that allows it is Colorado

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Post by tomcam »

mcculley wrote: post #22

My father passed away in 2020. As he was a mariner, we wanted to give him a proper send off. We had him cremated and built a little wooden boat. We put his cremains in the boat and set it adrift and afire just offshore of Florida’s Treasure Coast. We put concrete blocks into the boat to ensure that it would sink. I asked USCG for permission beforehand and they had only reasonable restrictions such as my assurance tha…

I definitely want to read the blog post and I certainly need to know what you mean about the flare gun.

Re: Want a Viking funeral? Only state that allows it is Colorado

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Post by midoridensha »

omginternets wrote: post #12
d110af5ccf wrote: post #8

Why is the government involved in this, again?

Presumably because it's in the public interest to ensure bodies are properly disposed?

No, it's not. We should just let the Free Market decide how to dispose of bodies. If people in apartments choose to let their relatives decay in their homes, or bury them in very shallow graves, that's their business.

/s

Re: Want a Viking funeral? Only state that allows it is Colorado

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Post by theandrewbailey »

Manuel_D wrote: post #26
CommanderHux wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which state disallows that specifically?

Most states disallow traps - they're indiscriminate devices that could harm people with legitimate reasons to go on your property, e.g. emergency workers.

They're too late by definition: the dead have no need for emergency services.

Re: Want a Viking funeral? Only state that allows it is Colorado

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Post by whiddershins »

culi wrote: post #61
dsfyu404ed wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Seems a bit silly to believe she volunteered for that People volunteered for some weird shit back in the day. Their morals and beliefs are nothing like ours.

you don't think it's at all likely that her life as a slave was so misreable this could've been a way out? regardless my point is it's silly to try to reconcile "we can't know anything" with this one details they pulled out. Like why is the single detail that somehow is credible?

I wasn’t saying any of it was credible or not credible. I was saying it is unknowable and basically thread hijacking with a random point unrelated to the meat of TFA.

I could have written “the account claims she volunteered” and perhaps my comment would have made more sense.

Edit: This is applying: Our cultural values and context to: A translation of: A person’s (how credible?) account who was: From a long time ago and: Of a different culture than ours and was: Observing yet a third culture which was alien to him

Re: Want a Viking funeral? Only state that allows it is Colorado

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Post by djbebs »

Manuel_D wrote: post #26
CommanderHux wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which state disallows that specifically?

Most states disallow traps - they're indiscriminate devices that could harm people with legitimate reasons to go on your property, e.g. emergency workers.

There are no legitimate reasons to go on my property.

Re: Want a Viking funeral? Only state that allows it is Colorado

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Post by TheCoelacanth »

djbebs wrote: post #68
Manuel_D wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most states disallow traps - they're indiscriminate devices that could harm people with legitimate reasons to go on your property, e.g. emergency workers.

There are no legitimate reasons to go on my property.

Nonsense. Property ownership is not absolute.

If the police can convince a judge that there is probably cause to believe that a crime is being committed on your property and to give them a warrant, that would be a legitimate reason to go to your property.

Re: Want a Viking funeral? Only state that allows it is Colorado

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Post by TheCoelacanth »

whiddershins wrote: post #39
neaden wrote: post #2

"Norse historians claim that in at least one instance, a deceased chieftain’s concubines were slain so that they, too, could accompany him." I think This is a treference to Ibn Fadlan's account and it's important to note 1. They were slaves, not concubines. I know the latter can be a subset of a former but it's important to be clear about it and 2. It was after she was ritualistically drugged and raped by his friends…

I read the account and thats not what it says, I think you are projecting onto it. The girl volunteered for example. There’s no way of knowing anything clearly from that account.

Yes, according to slaveholders, their slave totally volunteered to do what the slaveholder wanted them to do. That's definitely a reliable account.
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