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Re: Twitter's API is down?

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Post by input_sh »

recuter wrote: post #117
input_sh wrote: post #104

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You get what? Anything close to that long? Don't leave me hanging! I did the same and found a Guardian article that claims no Twitter outage lasted even an hour since 2016, but I thought it was irrelevant because articles about outages aren't exactly top-notch in quality. Did you find anything better? If so, do share! I'd be happy to be proven wrong!

> I did the same and found a Guardian article that claims no Twitter outage lasted even an hour since 2016 Actual Guardian article from 2016 discussing twitter outage lasting more than one hour: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/jan/19/twitter-d... Amusing comments over there from readers. You are right and I am wrong. And I'm sorry. RIP Twitter.

How is that against what I said? I said no outage lasted over an hour since 2016 and you disprove that by posting a 2016 article of an outage that lasted maybe two hours? (I don't know, the article doesn't specify.)

Is let's say five hours and sixteen hours within the same ballpark? I'm not interested in a couple of hours, my claim is not one lasted 10 or more in the past decade. If such a thing actually happened, I'm sure someone would've posted it by now.

Re: Twitter's API is down?

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Post by raspberry1337 »

KyeRussell wrote: post #129
rvz wrote: post #58

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I feel that my downvote won’t accurately express my dislike of this comment, so to provide a further explanation: you’re making absolutely zero effort to engage with this conversation. You’ve completely fabricated a point of view to oppose. Nobody here can be construed as being on the opposing side of “things have downtime sometimes”. I’ve every right to believe that you’re an Elon Musk fanboy because your reaction s…

If anything is emotionally driven, it's your reply.

I am also interested to know if outages happened before or is a recent phenomenon. I don't have a stake for electric car space man, or furiously despise him for god knows what as per above.

Re: Twitter's API is down?

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Post by wpietri »

dmitriid wrote: post #81
FranzFerdiNaN wrote: post #49

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It’s running well because the old guard built it so well. Musk threw them all out, so it will slowly but surely degrade. There was a reason Twitter had such a large workforce.

The tragedy of Twitter is that: - they were absolutely undoubtedly overstaffed - Musk's approach was absolutely undoubtedly insane shenanigans of a stupid rich cry-baby Both are true at the same time

> they were absolutely undoubtedly overstaffed

Oh? What's your evidence here?

Re: Twitter's API is down?

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Post by 0898 »

invalidname wrote: post #82
manholio wrote: post #66

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> Is 16h of downtime acceptable for a $44b business? After a 70% reduction in headcount, is a 16 hour downtime acceptable in a 5% market? I'm going with yes, executives from all major corporations are itching to press that button if only they could get away with it. The problem with Twitter is not, was not, and will never be a technical one. It's a simple site with a simple tech stack, using standard technology to sc…

At the scale twitter exists right now it is anything but simple. Had it been built from scratch it could have run fine with its current staff. But the current staff needs to maintain code from a MUCH larger staff. That's hard. Especially with microservices where every team did "their own thing" and some teams just vanished completely. You have "dark areas" where no one knows how stuff works and what's going on. Norma…

> “At the scale twitter exists right now it is anything but simple“

Elon should get real experts like Infosys or Wipro in to rebuild it.

Re: Twitter's API is down?

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Post by raverbashing »

samwillis wrote: post #67

It would not surprise me if this is the end of third party clients and the new owner has removed access. Very disappointing if he has, particularly if he's done it with zero notice too. He has been making significant noise of feature changes in the official client coming in the next couple of weeks. Removing the third party client access would align with that, along with removing the little "posted by ..." note on ea…

Nah, most likely Elon pulled the plug on one of those servers that "nobody knew what it was used for" and brought the API down

(or maybe API prod was running in somebody's computer and their office got evicted - who knows)

Re: Twitter's API is down?

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Post by nigamanth »

samwillis wrote: post #67

It would not surprise me if this is the end of third party clients and the new owner has removed access. Very disappointing if he has, particularly if he's done it with zero notice too. He has been making significant noise of feature changes in the official client coming in the next couple of weeks. Removing the third party client access would align with that, along with removing the little "posted by ..." note on ea…

I bet there are people who make Twitter applications for a living. How is he damaging.

Re: Twitter's API is down?

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Post by invalidname »

0898 wrote: post #144
invalidname wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At the scale twitter exists right now it is anything but simple. Had it been built from scratch it could have run fine with its current staff. But the current staff needs to maintain code from a MUCH larger staff. That's hard. Especially with microservices where every team did "their own thing" and some teams just vanished completely. You have "dark areas" where no one knows how stuff works and what's going on. Norma…

> “At the scale twitter exists right now it is anything but simple“ Elon should get real experts like Infosys or Wipro in to rebuild it.

Sometimes it's really hard to tell if people are joking or serious in HN...

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Post by highwaylights »

philliphaydon wrote: post #109
highwaylights wrote: post #103

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Half an order of magnitude bigger, at most. A regional outage of that size is embarrassing whatever way you slice it. Leaving all that aside, he’s driving a massive subset of his users away at a time when he really needs all the users he can get. You can spin this however you like, this is not a good situation for him. He’s said as much outright and implied it repeatedly. Since this time last year he’s said that both…

> Since this time last year he’s said that both Twitter and SpaceX are likely months from bankruptcy, and Tesla has been flat out told FSD, the feature they’ve been selling all their cars based on (which he has said himself the company is worthless without), just isn’t happening. As much as I hope Elon loses everthing. This isn't even related to downtime of Twitter. Volentarly shutting down twitter due to it being ba…

This is a fair comment, I'll clarify why I mentioned that.

Bringing up Tesla and SpaceX was only to point out that he doesn't really have any way to bail out bad Twitter decisions despite it being a (relatively) smaller company. There's nowhere to pull extra finances from to bail this out, and it's known he already went into debt to make the purchase.

I really don't want him to lose anything. I'd like him to go back in time to when he first installed Twitter on his phone and slap the thing out of his own hand and scream "NO! THAT'S A BAD ELON!"

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Post by samwillis »

raverbashing wrote: post #145
samwillis wrote: post #67

It would not surprise me if this is the end of third party clients and the new owner has removed access. Very disappointing if he has, particularly if he's done it with zero notice too. He has been making significant noise of feature changes in the official client coming in the next couple of weeks. Removing the third party client access would align with that, along with removing the little "posted by ..." note on ea…

Nah, most likely Elon pulled the plug on one of those servers that "nobody knew what it was used for" and brought the API down (or maybe API prod was running in somebody's computer and their office got evicted - who knows)

It's clear that it's not a general API outage, specific "reader" apps have been removed/blocked, including from peoples "authorised apps" in their accounts.

This is not an "API Outage", I think we can be 99.9% sure it's a removal of specific apps.

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Post by samwillis »

nigamanth wrote: post #146
samwillis wrote: post #67

It would not surprise me if this is the end of third party clients and the new owner has removed access. Very disappointing if he has, particularly if he's done it with zero notice too. He has been making significant noise of feature changes in the official client coming in the next couple of weeks. Removing the third party client access would align with that, along with removing the little "posted by ..." note on ea…

I bet there are people who make Twitter applications for a living. How is he damaging.

Oh sure, I feel incredibly sorry for small business and indi-developers who may loose their income from this. I hope they have contingency plans for this eventuality and have started to diversify.

There is also a whole ecosystem of "publisher" apps like Buffer and Typefully that haven't been blocked yet, if I was them I would be very worried right now.

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