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Eggs are 60% more expensive than last year in the US

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Re: Eggs are 60% more expensive than last year in the US

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Post by amalgamated_inc »

User23 wrote: post #337
mint2 wrote: post #334

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Actually thats not correct. even if they have environmental regs on paper countries like that don’t have them in practice due to lack of enforcement. What is the purpose of those comments?

I assume it was to make me laugh, which it did. Nobody actually thinks "regulations are bad." The point that is being humorously made is that these things have significant trade-offs and you're pretending not to get it. And I have to compliment you on playing the straight man in the exchange, it wouldn't have been nearly so funny without your participation! We saw the same thing in early LAN engineering when Ethernet…

> I assume it was to make me laugh, which it did.

Sure let's go with that :)

I'd summarize it like so: while it is theoretically possible fore regulation to be net-positive, it is vastly net-negative on average and especially cumulative. And we aren't able or willing to figure out which ones are positive/negative beforehand, so zero new regulation would be the optimal strategy.

Re: Eggs are 60% more expensive than last year in the US

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Post by DavidPeiffer »

mynameisash wrote: post #98
bigtex wrote: post #36

My wife has a cottage baking business and would buy 15 dozen eggs from Costco Business Center. Already high, a few months back in cost about $45 for the box. Just last week it was $110. She doesn't recall but it fairly certain the box was between $20-30 before inflation hit. However she said they had chicken legs that were .49/lb which is a great price but hard to reconcile with the narrative that avian flu is the ca…

I do a good deal of baking, and I buy a lot of my supplies from Costco. I also have spent a fair amount of time very diligently tracking my family's grocery expenses. (I have a spreadsheet of almost 3 years of just about all groceries we bought.) In 2019, I picked up 15 dozen eggs for $8.69, and the 5 dozen was $8.99 at that time. (There were times when they didn't stock the 15 dozen, so I had to opt for 5 -- a much…

Summer of 2017 in small-ish town Iowa I was buying eggs at Aldi for $0.37/dozen. When I moved to a "large" Iowa town the price was suddenly around $0.55.

I recently went to buy eggs at a higher end store and the only eggs available were cage free, but would have been less expensive than generic eggs.

Re: Eggs are 60% more expensive than last year in the US

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Post by roflyear »

hahamrfunnyguy wrote: post #112
roflyear wrote: post #73

You guys know the conditions chickens live in, right? We basically torture these animals to get their eggs and meat. It is awful.

Mostly true for factory farms, though it doesn't have to be that way. My buddy has 20 hens and the coop he built them is like the Taj Mahal. They have a nice big run to play in and in the summer they get lots of fresh plants and veggies. Insulated, heated, lighting... they seem to be quite happy and the eggs are delicious.

I have no problem with that! Probably delicious, too, if that is your thing.

Re: Eggs are 60% more expensive than last year in the US

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Post by roflyear »

wincy wrote: post #213
roflyear wrote: post #73

You guys know the conditions chickens live in, right? We basically torture these animals to get their eggs and meat. It is awful.

I am aware. I made sure my kids are aware too, shown them videos as part of their home schooling curriculum, so they won’t be blindsided by it when they’re older. I also told them that’s why they exist and it’s fine and I don’t care, because that’s what I and the vast majority of humanity believe.

"everyone thinks it is ok" has been used pretty much forever to justify some awful things! I'm sure you can think of a bunch!

Re: Eggs are 60% more expensive than last year in the US

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Post by roflyear »

vorpalhex wrote: post #177
roflyear wrote: post #75

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Vegan options haven't gone up in price (much).

My oatmilk has gotten quite a bit more expensive. Cashew milk is frequently out of stock lately.

Really? Oat milk is $6 a gallon here, and I'm pretty sure it has been roughly that for a long time. At least since I started buying it. Cow milk is about $4.50.

Can't really substantiate this tho as I can't find online charts of oat milk prices lol

Re: Eggs are 60% more expensive than last year in the US

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Post by seneca »

WarOnPrivacy wrote: post #336
WalterBright wrote: post #315

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Takes me 2 minutes to microwave a $2 can of chili. The can is worth about 2 meals. The trip to the store, once a week. Driving to Taco Time every day takes time, gas, and costs $20 for a meal. Ironically, I microwave meals and such not because I'm poor, but to save time. I dislike going to restaurants and even McBurger because it takes too much time. Another meal I like takes less than a minute. Pour some oats in a b…

These sound like things that can be done by someone who has resources when and where they need them. They do not sound like something that can be done consistently by someone without regular transportation or pay.

> These sound like things that can be done by someone who has resources when and where they need them.

> They do not sound like something that can be done consistently by someone without regular transportation or pay.

If someone has transportation to go to a fast food restaurant, they have transportation to go to a corner store and buy a can of beans. If they have money for one, they have money for the other. It's actually usually cheaper not to eat the junk food.

Reality is that most poor people eat junk food because it's less effort, and because the high amounts of salt, fat, and sugar that make it so unhealthy are nearly addictive and act as a comfort.

Re: Eggs are 60% more expensive than last year in the US

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Post by User23 »

amalgamated_inc wrote: post #341
User23 wrote: post #337

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I assume it was to make me laugh, which it did. Nobody actually thinks "regulations are bad." The point that is being humorously made is that these things have significant trade-offs and you're pretending not to get it. And I have to compliment you on playing the straight man in the exchange, it wouldn't have been nearly so funny without your participation! We saw the same thing in early LAN engineering when Ethernet…

> I assume it was to make me laugh, which it did. Sure let's go with that :) I'd summarize it like so: while it is theoretically possible fore regulation to be net-positive, it is vastly net-negative on average and especially cumulative. And we aren't able or willing to figure out which ones are positive/negative beforehand, so zero new regulation would be the optimal strategy.

I think for the sake of the Science we should try random regulation too. Maybe one state could use USDA regulations and another could use whatever ChatGPT comes up with and we A/B test.

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Post by softfalcon »

NineStarPoint wrote: post #139
softfalcon wrote: post #79

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You can lay eggs without a rooster, but if you do, one of the hens will become dominant and needlessly bully the other hens. This will stress them out and you’ll get health issues in your hens. Source: I come from a farming family.

Does the dominant rooster not cause the hens similar stress for some reason?

In our experience, hens sometimes get into squabbles and the rooster is often the one who breaks up the fight. More like a peace keeper.

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Post by softfalcon »

thepasswordis wrote: post #138
softfalcon wrote: post #79

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You can lay eggs without a rooster, but if you do, one of the hens will become dominant and needlessly bully the other hens. This will stress them out and you’ll get health issues in your hens. Source: I come from a farming family.

I have 6 chickens in my back yard right now and this is not a problem and hasn’t ever been a problem in the years I’ve had them.

I'm glad it works well for you. My grandpa (when he was alive) and uncle swear otherwise. Might be because they have significantly more chickens than that.

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Post by softfalcon »

voisin wrote: post #264
softfalcon wrote: post #79

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You can lay eggs without a rooster, but if you do, one of the hens will become dominant and needlessly bully the other hens. This will stress them out and you’ll get health issues in your hens. Source: I come from a farming family.

The value of a rooster from me experience is protection. Last week I went out to close up the coop and found blood all over the place. Turns out my poor rooster (Cluck Norris, natch) was covered in blood and had clearly been in a tussle defending the hens from a predator. Perhaps a cat or a bird of prey. He is totally fine now and I am quite thankful that he was there.

Yeah, we get fox, opossums and weasels here. The roosters do a good job of fussing their day up.

For the opossums, it's a stand off, the rooster just acts tough and makes a lot of noise so you can hopefully show up and scare it off. Weasels are annoying as they'll destroy eggs. Fox are particularly problematic though. They'll easily kill a rooster and are very quiet and conniving.

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