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Re: Europe's largest deposit of rare earth metals discovered in Sweden

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Post by hannob »

raspberry1337 wrote: post #40
Mrdarknezz wrote: post #13

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The company that owns the mine LKAB are together with swedish Steel producer SSAB producing fossilfree steel. They are working with Volvo to build their electric cars with this steel https://www.ssab.com/en/news/2021/08/the-worlds-first-fossil...

It's a completely hypothetical process that has 0 proven results and already involved shady deadlings with government, where government officials are chatting with CEO's about how to hide details: ' "As you probably know, it is almost never possible to hide entire documents," she writes apologetically.' [0] [0] https://www.svd.se/a/pQnQaw/hybrit-har-blivit-ett-klagg

The Hybrit pilot plant is already operational and producing steel, although in small quantities. That sounds like a proven result to me, do you disagree?

Can you summarize what the linked article (unfortunately paywalled and in swedish) says? I am quite interested in this project.

Re: Europe's largest deposit of rare earth metals discovered in Sweden

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Post by skrebbel »

plussed_reader wrote: post #155
MasterYoda wrote: post #66

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Quite impressive that little Sweden has found the second most elements in the world, 19 of them. https://tf-cmsv2-smithsonianmag-media.s3.amazonaws.com/legac...

The Nova program 'Race to Zero'(I think) has a great overview on Bohr and his contemporaries to induce liquid phase of the lowest elements.

Bohr was Danish though, so how is this related? Other than Sweden being a boat trip away?

Re: Europe's largest deposit of rare earth metals discovered in Sweden

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Post by heywhatupboys »

2000UltraDeluxe wrote: post #211
heywhatupboys wrote: post #192

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> But a Swedish speaking Finn this is the argument Russia has used to invade Ukraine...

That Finland has a sizable Swedish-speaking minority? The guy was considered Swedish back then; Finland was simply the Eastern half of the Swedish kingdom. There's plenty of Finnish speaking Swedes too. Is that also an argument for invasion?

No, that speaking Swedish means you are not Finnish or, in any remote way, makes you "closer to being Swedish"

Re: Europe's largest deposit of rare earth metals discovered in Sweden

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Post by kwhitefoot »

Eisenstein wrote: post #240
anononaut wrote: post #180

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Gold, silver, and platinum are largely by products of zinc mining etc in recent decades.

Fun fact: 0.16% of global zinc mined in 2020 went to making US pennies. Source: 7,596,400,000 pennies made @ 2.5g each divided by 12.1Mt worldwide zinc production.

Surely it is time to abandon the US cent. They have been next to worthless for many years.

Re: Europe's largest deposit of rare earth metals discovered in Sweden

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Post by olivermarks »

joromero wrote: post #253
olivermarks wrote: post #190

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It is going to be an agonizing compromise for Sweden - destroy the Kiruna area with extraction (a million tons is a lot) or be environmentally friendly. Currently the Congo and Chile are being torn apart with toxic dollar a day child labor extraction. The Swedes will do a good job of mechanizing/sanitizing the process though. I went to Kiruna once to see the northern lights but they didn't show up.

Are you sure you are talking about Chile? As far as I know it doesn't have a child labor problem nor is it a big producer of rare earth metals.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jun/14/electr...

Re: Europe's largest deposit of rare earth metals discovered in Sweden

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Post by olivermarks »

standardUser wrote: post #254
olivermarks wrote: post #191

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It's important to understand that electrification does not reduce pollution.

Electrification is the only way to curtail climate change.

Brawndo's got what plants crave: It's got electrolytes!

https://youtu.be/kAqIJZeeXEc

Re: Europe's largest deposit of rare earth metals discovered in Sweden

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Post by kwhitefoot »

anthonypasq wrote: post #172
barbegal wrote: post #163

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There are larger open-pit iron ore mines in Australia. This mine produces around 1% of global output.

1 mine producing 1% of global output seems insane no?

There are comparable statistics for other commodities: Ukraine produces 3% of the worlds wheat.

Re: Europe's largest deposit of rare earth metals discovered in Sweden

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Post by olivermarks »

kwhitefoot wrote: post #260
olivermarks wrote: post #236

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Also 3) the pollution created by unrecyclable end use electronic devices of all sizes.

> unrecyclable end use electronic devices Surely most electronic devices are recyclable as far as the metallic parts are concerned.

https://www.iea.org/reports/the-role-of-critical-minerals-in...

Re: Europe's largest deposit of rare earth metals discovered in Sweden

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Post by standardUser »

dfghjkjhg wrote: post #255
standardUser wrote: post #254

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Electrification is the only way to curtail climate change.

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Is everything an elaborate conspiracy, or do you just apply cynicism lazily without worrying about the details?

Re: Europe's largest deposit of rare earth metals discovered in Sweden

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Post by nine_k »

MasterYoda wrote: post #66
robin_reala wrote: post #48

Not exactly surprising that it’s in Sweden, as many rare earth metals were first discovered here and are named after Swedish things: - Scandium from Scandinavia - Yttrium, Terbium, Erbium and Ytterbium from the village of Ytterby - Holmium from Stockholm - Thulium from Thule

Quite impressive that little Sweden has found the second most elements in the world, 19 of them. https://tf-cmsv2-smithsonianmag-media.s3.amazonaws.com/legac...

Sweden has been an industrial powerhouse for centuries, due to its rich deposits of various ores in its relatively young mountains, and excellent access to the rest of Europe by sea.

No wonder chemistry was in high regard there for quite some time.

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