Europe's largest deposit of rare earth metals discovered in Sweden

Post by olivermarks » Thu, Jan 12, 2023, 4:09 PM UTC

alkonaut wrote: post #114

qwerty456127 wrote: post #62

Isn't rare earth metals mining insanely pollutive? I've heard they can be found all over the world but only China mines them massively because nobody else is willing to destroy their ecology.

It often is as I understand it. But it's also helping reduce pollution through electrification so it's a balance. I (being not far from there) feel it's better to have polluting operations like this in heavily regulated and modern economies where there is a good chance the damage can be minimized at least.

Post by Laaas » Thu, Jan 12, 2023, 4:12 PM UTC

moloch-hai wrote: post #187

The value of many "rare earths" suddenly plummeted recently when an iron+nitrogen [edit: not "nickel"] alloy/crystallization ("allotrope") was discovered that approximates the properties of the best lanthanide magnets. ("Rare-earths" are not, incidentally, needed for [edit:batteries], wind turbines, or solar panels, however much certain people wish they were, or confidently claim.)

Post by moloch-hai » Thu, Jan 12, 2023, 4:14 PM UTC

Laaas wrote: post #193

moloch-hai wrote: post #187

The value of many "rare earths" suddenly plummeted recently when an iron+nitrogen [edit: not "nickel"] alloy/crystallization ("allotrope") was discovered that approximates the properties of the best lanthanide magnets. ("Rare-earths" are not, incidentally, needed for [edit:batteries], wind turbines, or solar panels, however much certain people wish they were, or confidently claim.)

Do you have a link, keywords, so I can read further on this topic? Thanks beforehand.

Post by mongol » Thu, Jan 12, 2023, 4:36 PM UTC

Erikun wrote: post #183

flakeoil wrote: post #169

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But a Swedish speaking Finn and it seems he made his discoveries while living in Sweden. From wikipedia: "Johan Gadolin was born in Åbo (Finnish name Turku), Finland (then a part of Sweden)." [0] "In 1779 Gadolin moved to Uppsala University." Uppsala is in Sweden. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johan_Gadolin

Also most of todays Finland was under Swedish rule until 1809.

Post by throwayyy479087 » Thu, Jan 12, 2023, 4:45 PM UTC

actionfromafar wrote: post #186

FpUser wrote: post #171

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>"I've wondered how that works" Nice country you've got here. Will be a real shame if anything happens to it.

But the problem with this approach is that NATO actually needs Turkey, it's in a vital position and is locally a major player. Ideally, NATO members need Turkey to be truly cooperative. (You know, discuss, compromise, that old thing.) What NATO really needs is for Turkey to be not directly hostile. That would be incredibly costly. We already got a tiny tiny preview of that by Turkey turning a blind eye to ISIS.