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Eggs are 60% more expensive than last year in the US

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Re: Eggs are 60% more expensive than last year in the US

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Early in my career, I consulted for Coke to ensure sugar taxes failed and soda was included in food stamp funding. I say Coke's policies are evil because I saw inside the room. The first step in playbook was paying the NAACP + other civil rights groups to call opponents racist Coke gave millions to the NAACP and the Hispanic Federation - both directly and through front groups like the American Beverage Association. T…

> Coke's position was clear: soda is one of the cheapest ways to get calories - a flagrantly inaccurate statement when factoring in the health consequences. I'm always amazed at how many people flat out get angry with me when I say fast food is simply not cheaper than cooking yourself, provided you have a kitchen. I'm consistently told that that level of thinking is necessarily classist (and therefore racist), becaus…

I've heard the same thing, and I usually respond with prices of decent, filling food at the grocery store - like potatoes, a can of beans, a bag of apples, etc. As for cooking, you can buy a used microwave at the thrift store for about what a soft taco costs at Taco Time.

Re: Eggs are 60% more expensive than last year in the US

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Avian flu is killing chickens. You don't see it because no-one likes to put pictures of mountainous piles of culled chickens on people's television screens.

December 2022 news article says 52,695,450 chickens killed.

https://www.npr.org/2022/12/02/1140076426/what-we-know-about...

Re: Eggs are 60% more expensive than last year in the US

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Actually there’s more. On Jan 1st several more states laws about animal welfare went into effect whereas before essentially only California had those requirements. The supply of eggs meeting those requirements had not been ramped up to meet the step in demand. I expect that disruption will be temporary.

Yea this also. Colorado, one of the major state producers requires all chickens who produce eggs for sale to be cage free as of January 1st.

What is the intent of this change?

Re: Eggs are 60% more expensive than last year in the US

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I personally remember when Soda taxes were being proposed in Philadelphia. I did and do see soda as a luxury, so it sounded reasonable enough to me compared to alternatives A lot of otherwise reasonable people that I had known at the time told me that I shouldn't be racist by voicing my support for these policies I asked them to explain, but they would not, (do your own research, etc.) so I never really got a hold of…

they went through, its like $3-4 for a 2 liter. even diet so its not even about sugar, though diet soda isnt really much better. and i think the latest study is less than half the money went where it was supposed to. at the least, tax at sales tends to be regressive, affecting poor people more than not poor, which maybe you could claim is racist. but pa constitution doesnt allow anything but flat taxes, so unfortunat…

Washington State, to its credit, does not have sales tax on food.

Re: Eggs are 60% more expensive than last year in the US

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Lydon Johnson had an answer (via George Will): In 1966, the price of eggs rose to a level that President Lyndon Johnson judged, God knows how, was too high. There were two culprits – supply and demand – and Johnson’s agriculture secretary told him there was not much that could be done. LBJ, however, was a can-do fellow who directed the US surgeon general to dampen demand by warning the nation about the hazards of cho…

Is the fact that Johnson died at 64 of a heart attack somewhat ironic, or was he speaking from personal experience about the dangers of eggs (and the bacon everyone ate daily)?

He was a chain smoker.

https://www.drmirkin.com/histories-and-mysteries/lyndon-bain...

Unrelated:- I regard him as one of the best presidents.

Re: Eggs are 60% more expensive than last year in the US

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Avian flu is killing chickens. You don't see it because no-one likes to put pictures of mountainous piles of culled chickens on people's television screens.

December 2022 news article says 52,695,450 chickens killed in the US alone. About the same number in Europe. 10 million in Japan.

https://www.npr.org/2022/12/02/1140076426/what-we-know-about...

https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/11/business/bird-flu-japan-chick...

Re: Eggs are 60% more expensive than last year in the US

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I am curious about that statement. Feeding chickens store bought food that is. I grew up with chickens being the garbage disposal. They will eat anything and everything. They are the cheapest animal to raise for food. (Except maybe cattle on the old west when you could parasite off the public land.) The argument against backyard chickens would be health considerations i'd say, not cost. Curious.

At least in my experience, we don't produce enough food alone for the chickens. They certainly get 100% of our food waste, but they would starve if we didn't supplement them with store-bought food.

Depends on size of family and size of flock, and amount of land available to graze.

Re: Eggs are 60% more expensive than last year in the US

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I'm a huge proponent of backyard chickens and had them for years, but they are, generally speaking, not a "more cost effective" way to get eggs, at least in north america if you are feeding them mostly store-bought feed. Then again, this change in egg prices may change that. But they're great for redundancy (more & varied egg supply reduces the impact of supply chain shocks), to get the best quality eggs you can, and…

I just did some very casual back of the envelope math for my backyard flock. Assuming worst possible outputs and highest monthly costs, it works out to the equivalent of $5/dozen. In my area, roadside stands and/or grocery store “free-range, organic” eggs have been more than $7/dozen for years now. My gut tells me that over the time we’ve had these chickens, our actual break even would be closer to $4/dozen once our…

These numbers are very close to what we’ve found with our flock.

Re: Eggs are 60% more expensive than last year in the US

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> 15 dozen eggs from Costco Business Center. [...] Just last week it was $110. Might I suggest buying eggs from a normal grocery store or other alternative source? That's $7.33 per dozen and unless you have some very unusual situation, a dozen eggs can be had for less than half that price at a grocery store.

>The USDA shows the current price of a dozen large eggs in California cost about $6.72, which is double what it cost in July. https://abc7.com/egg-prices-in-california-avian-flu-bird-cag...

I am in California. Yesterday I bought the organic cage free vegetarian fed brown eggs at Safeway, they were $5.99 I could have spent less for the plain white eggs, and this is at Safeway which is not known for their low prices.

I’m just not seeing these quoted prices anywhere.

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