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Eggs are 60% more expensive than last year in the US

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Re: Eggs are 60% more expensive than last year in the US

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Broilers take a fraction of the time to grow compared to the five months it takes before a hen lays the first egg.

12 weeks for most chickens we eat. It’s honestly crazy lol

I don’t know whether to be amazed at this agricultural feat that brings cheap, tasty, high-protein meals to the masses of humanity, or sickened by an abomination of nature that turns a living thing into a bio-engineered fast-growing blob. I guess both?

Re: Eggs are 60% more expensive than last year in the US

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You guys know the conditions chickens live in, right? We basically torture these animals to get their eggs and meat. It is awful.

Mostly true for factory farms, though it doesn't have to be that way. My buddy has 20 hens and the coop he built them is like the Taj Mahal. They have a nice big run to play in and in the summer they get lots of fresh plants and veggies.

Insulated, heated, lighting... they seem to be quite happy and the eggs are delicious.

Re: Eggs are 60% more expensive than last year in the US

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Yeah, it's not just eggs. My grocery bill has definitely been greatly outpacing the official inflation figures, which are already high. Double or triple that rate, I'd say.

How could we tell if the published inflation rate was just completely bullshit?

Write an app for people to submit receipts and open publish the data. Maybe some ocr/ml stuff to help.

Re: Eggs are 60% more expensive than last year in the US

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You guys know the conditions chickens live in, right? We basically torture these animals to get their eggs and meat. It is awful.

My understanding is that egg farmers need insurance and insurance is only issued if you follow the rules which means packed hen houses. If you want to be more humane, you risk losing your insurance. This is from casual conversations with egg-farming adjacent people.

Re: Eggs are 60% more expensive than last year in the US

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There have been several studies that have shown eggs to be healthy. There are several studies that show they are unhealthy. Bias is a real problem in nutrition science. There are zero interventional studies that show eggs to be unhealthy. In other words no one has given eggs to one group, observed another group not eat eggs and shown that eggs CAUSE a negative health outcome. Instead people have made statistical calc…

If you're in an area which used a lot of lead paint in the past, be aware that free range chickens can move that soil lead into their eggs: https://now.tufts.edu/2019/05/29/backyard-chickens-and-risk-...

Seems this kind of invisible contextual factor could dilute studies on "health".

Re: Eggs are 60% more expensive than last year in the US

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Actually there’s more. On Jan 1st several more states laws about animal welfare went into effect whereas before essentially only California had those requirements. The supply of eggs meeting those requirements had not been ramped up to meet the step in demand. I expect that disruption will be temporary.

So why then are my Pasture Raised Organic eggs increasing at the same rate as budget eggs. These regulations would not impact those operations

For anyone who cares little about that distinction, those two products are basically the same thing. In economic terms, they are substitutes.

Re: Eggs are 60% more expensive than last year in the US

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post #29

It would be nice to see more people allowed to keep backyard chickens (hens at least, since roosters can be noisy). Since getting some at our place I’ve been surprised how fun they are to have around and easy to care for. Our compost from the kitchen goes to them too, which could help people divert scraps from the landfill or from being picked up (big gas usage) for municipal composting. Their waste is also great fer…

I've been sitting on an acre in a city that allows backyard chickens, thinking about it but doing nothing. I think this is the catalyst I need to get started on a coop. If anyone has any plans or pointers for a coop, or raising chickens in the SW, would be much appreciated.

just make sure you have a good lock on your coop and the bottom is closed off (aka not just a frame sitting on the bare ground). raccoons are very good at getting into coops.

Re: Eggs are 60% more expensive than last year in the US

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Answer: Bird flu and inflation (less so). Although I suspect in short time we'll find out that the price hikes due to "bird flu" and "inflation" become... permanent.

It didn't the last time a bird flu impacted the egg supply. Inflation will continue to be a factor, but I expect it will return to near-normal levels, at least.

This bird flu is not the same as before. Before it was flu from the wild and the strains were quite mild. The current very sickmaking flu started inside farms and escaped into the wild. Millions of farm birds and wild birds are killed by it. Ofcourse, farms get it now from the wild birds, and ofcourse they blame the wild birds :)

This strong flu will not be gone in a while and it speaks for the position that current large scale farming is not sustainable.

Re: Eggs are 60% more expensive than last year in the US

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My wife has a cottage baking business and would buy 15 dozen eggs from Costco Business Center. Already high, a few months back in cost about $45 for the box. Just last week it was $110. She doesn't recall but it fairly certain the box was between $20-30 before inflation hit. However she said they had chicken legs that were .49/lb which is a great price but hard to reconcile with the narrative that avian flu is the ca…

Isn't it convenient that we discuss inflation like it only affects us 1 year at a time? All these articles shouldn't be saying 60% they should be saying 5 to 6 times more expensive from before the pandemic.

Re: Eggs are 60% more expensive than last year in the US

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You guys know the conditions chickens live in, right? We basically torture these animals to get their eggs and meat. It is awful.

and now it's expensive too! Financial outrage > Moral outrage

You're of course welcome to your position, but it's going to drown in this sea that is mostly about the cost. Also, there are many options for both eggs and meat that are absolutely not torture, so you've kind of put yourself at odds right out of the gate.

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