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Re: NYC Slice

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Post by g_sch »

noduerme wrote: post #203
Grazester wrote: post #170

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I see you did not go to college on a tight budget.

Egg and bacon / egg and sausage were like $2 when I was there in the 90s. And they were about twice the diameter of the ones you get at McDonalds. I don't know what it costs now, maybe this is something like avocado toast that's become anomalously expensive, but calorie for calorie it was as cheap or cheaper than pizza back then. They could be bought from most bodegas that had a stove, as the peer points out. (The LA…

At most non-fancy corner stores they're still under $4. Usually under $3 if you just want egg & cheese. And they're always made to order - ketchup, mayo, salt/pepper, hot sauce, on a roll or bagel, 50 cents extra for a tomato. I know New Yorkers can be a little insufferable about their bodegas, but I've lived in a few other major cities and none of them have provided me with this much access to a cheap breakfast.

It's true though, good breakfast burritos are still hard to come by here.

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Post by standardUser »

nxm wrote: post #319
standardUser wrote: post #312

It's difficult to notice inflation living in NYC because everything is just expensive. If a coffee or a slice of pizza or a bagel goes up by 20%, that's less than a buck on average, and prices among those products already vary by a lot more than buck. So it's never going to be a shocking increase. Or even noticeable. Combine that with the resignation that most New Yorkers have to the fact that shit is just expensive,…

Also a function of your salary… you don’t feel that marginal increase, but many non-tech sector folks living on a budget definitely do

I am just always broke. But yes, families are likely purchasing many of the same items at the same locations each week and can both see and feel the difference. But the vast majority of people I know in NY are single or childless and they seem, like me, to consider their paycheck forfeit to the city and it's infinite offerings.

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Post by fsckboy »

pigsty wrote: post #287
fsckboy wrote: post #274

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I contend Anthony Bourdain didn't actually know good food from bad. I have nothing against him, I enjoyed his show, it was quite engaging, and I wanted him to dispense good information--so I could use it--but his recommendations, for instance in the NY City area, were awful. (he prided himself on not describing the food he was trying, all he ever would say it is, "that's good".) His career as a chef was at a brasseri…

The elevation of haute cuisine as “good” and common folk food as “mediocre” is strange to me. Sometimes a cheap-ass $5 meal really does satisfy people far more than a Michelin star restaurant. Humble bragging about only being able to enjoy non-normie food sounds silly and unrefined, really.

I'm not referring to that. I'm referring to things like "what's the best pho" or pizza or pupusa or ramen

I do think as a chef learning haute cuisine is learning useful things about cooking and what makes some bread better than other bread, and what consistency a sauce should have and how to achieve it.

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Post by lotsofpulp »

rcme wrote: post #302
MuffinFlavored wrote: post #211

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> Many who grow up in the NY area grow up on pizza. Average pizza slice that we're discussing is according to https://www.nutritionix.com/i/nutritionix/new-york-style-piz... 500+ calories, lots of saturated fat, lots of sodium. How healthy is it to grow up on pizza?

100g of salted mozzarella has 300 calories, saturated fat, and sodium. Ultimately, pizza is basically 3 ingredients: bread, tomato sauce, and mozzarella. Most people don’t consider those individual ingredients particularly unhealthy.

>Most people don’t consider those individual ingredients particularly unhealthy.

What does it matter which ingredients people do and do not consider healthy?

It is objectively known that the quantities of bread and mozzarella consumed by most people relative to their lifestyle is unhealthy.

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Post by moloch-hai »

sbaiddn wrote: post #289
moloch-hai wrote: post #270

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But are not, when you get right down to it, pizza at all.

If you ask an Italian, neither is NYC's

It is anyway possible to find pizza in NYC. If rare. There is distressingly much Chicago whatever it is, besides.

The best pizza I ever had was off a cart in Perugia, Umbria, in the '90s. It had potato slices, parmesan spears, green olive oil, and crunchy salt. You may doubt, but it was very much pizza. The crust makes the pizza.

Re: NYC Slice

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Post by moloch-hai »

lotsofpulp wrote: post #279
moloch-hai wrote: post #265

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That you can blame on sugar in everything. Even what was blamed on saturated fat turns out to be caused by sugar and trans fat ("hydrogenated vegetable oil", now more-or-less banned, with certain disgraceful exceptions). Pizza is relatively benign.

The dough is all carbs, which causes the same problem as sugar, and I am sure many places use sugar in their sauce. Unless you are doing a lot of cardio, a slice of cheese pizza is pretty void of nutrition.

The starch in dough is broken up into glucose, which is absolutely fine: nobody gets sick from eating starch. It would be better with some fiber, so your intestinal bacteria could have some of it.

The problem with sugar is that it is half fructose, and fructose is processed on the same pathway as alcohol, in the liver, and causes the same illnesses as alcohol. It is much better, if you must eat it, to eat enough fiber with it that your intestinal bacteria get much of it instead.

If you don't keep your intestinal bacteria well-fed, they are obliged to eat you instead.

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Post by bradleyjg »

craftkiller wrote: post #171
billiam wrote: post #90

Native New Yorker here. Out of towners are obsessed with the BEST slice, but the true measure of NYC's 45 degree greatness is the decent quality following a Poisson distribution. My tip: just travel to any random spot in the five boroughs. First; you will be impressed how close you are to a pizza spot wherever you are. Second: you will be impressed with the slice, and with the variety of people who are good at making…

> First; you will be impressed how close you are to a pizza spot wherever you are. Second: you will be impressed with the slice Unless you're in Bed Stuy. Most of the pizza here isn't worth the cardboard it comes in.

Billy Joel sings about walking through Bed Stuy alone as akin riding his motorcycle in the rain. Taking his life in his hands. It still amazes me that well off people live there now.

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Post by OkayPhysicist »

yamtaddle wrote: post #122
ethbr0 wrote: post #117

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That's only because Dominos infamously, sometime during the 2010s(?), ran a campaign that amounted to "Our current pizza sucked, but we've got a new recipe that's better."

What's weird is I was around for that, was in college and ate Domino's pretty regularly at the time, and everyone seems to believe it was indeed a lot better, but I thought it was a ton worse than what they had before. Just tasted like a lot more MSG and oregano.

I struggle to imagine a savory food that can't be improved with more MSG and oregano.

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Post by jamiek88 »

DonHopkins wrote: post #260
yamtaddle wrote: post #92

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The ideal place to be is knowing when pizza is bad, but still being able to enjoy bad pizza. That kinda goes for most things, really.

I'm that way with my science fiction. I'm bistellar: I love both Star Wars and Star Trek. But I fully realize that Bladerunner is astronomically better than either of them. And none of those masterpiees keep me from fully enjoying smutty trash like Space Truckers, or even any of Philip K Dick's horrible random short stories. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQOqLOErhZA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8Ifaeff0mA

Hey me too! I love Iain Banks, and geek out over some Stanislaw Lem but also enjoy the crappy book one of twelve kindle unlimited shitty space operas.

Unedited tosh most of it but it does a job !

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