‘That girl is going to get herself killed’ (2022)

Post by jessaustin » Mon, Jan 09, 2023, 6:46 PM UTC

giantg2 wrote: post #133

themaninthedark wrote: post #100

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A mix of both I think. The plastic bag warning is aimed at parents of children mostly. Babies, love crinkly things. I know that my son when he started crawling would seek out the on floor garbage cans to play with the bags we used as a liner. If you have someone who is not thinking about the ramifications, they would let the kid play with the bag, kid would end up putting it over their head(yay, surround sound) and s…

In theory, children that young shouldn't be unattended anyways. The onus shouldn't be on the company for not printing a warning, but on the parent for a lack of supervision (aka negligence).

Post by krisoft » Mon, Jan 09, 2023, 6:46 PM UTC

antipotoad wrote: post #149

themaninthedark wrote: post #84

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As long as the paranoia is about how nature is going to try and kill you at any chance it gets, sounds good to me!

That paranoia is the creeping realization that civilization coddles us to the point of uselessness in the face of trivial survival challenges, and that nature actually cares not one jot for your continued existence as a living being. I’d modify your statement to say not that nature is trying to kill you, but that you’re irrelevant. The difference is deeper than it might at first seem.

Post by 13of40 » Mon, Jan 09, 2023, 6:47 PM UTC

rootusrootus wrote: post #152

13of40 wrote: post #104

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Does it matter whether the light was switched on? It seems like the path of least resistance in that scenario would be the other copper wire leading out of the light socket rather than the high resistance person connecting to ground. I've had a similar experience, where (at the age of about 10) I touched an exposed 120v AC wire on a running water pump, while standing in a muddy field, and I only got a mild vibrating…

> Does it matter whether the light was switched on? Depends on how it is wired. Sometimes lights are wired so that the switch comes before the fixture, sometimes after. One of several reasons you should always turn power off at the breaker when fiddling with the wiring, instead of assuming it won't be hot if the switch is off.

  [hot wire]---[switch]---[load]---.
                                   |
  [neutral wire]-------------------+
                                   |
                               [person]
                                   |
                               [ground]

  [neutral wire]---[load]---[switch]---.
                                       |
  [hot wire]---------------------------+
                                       |
                                   [person]
                                       |
                                   [ground]

Post by giantg2 » Mon, Jan 09, 2023, 6:50 PM UTC

TheCleric wrote: post #203

giantg2 wrote: post #123

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I'm not sure how we could enumerate all the possible risks in a wilderness or near wilderness setting.

You don't have to enumerate, just acknowledge. Some people think trying to get a selfie with a buffalo is a good idea. You don't have to tell them all the was it could end badly, just that it likely will. Same for the person hiking something like Zion. They should be prepared for any relatively expected contingency, and if they don't know what those are, they are unprepared to do so.

Post by [deleted] » Mon, Jan 09, 2023, 6:51 PM UTC

Animats wrote: post #186

I know someone who spent her twenties as an ocean lifeguard, including the real Baywatch, LA County Fire Department lifeguards. That's competitive to get in, and she's one of the few women to qualify. 6 feet tall, blonde, and muscular. Country girl who grew up on ten acres in Northern California. She spent years rescuing people who did stupid stuff. During the off-season for the beach she did off-road vehicle rescues…