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‘That girl is going to get herself killed’ (2022)

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Re: ‘That girl is going to get herself killed’ (2022)

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Most of the current is going across your skin, not through it, and stone isn't necessarily a good ground. A light fixture generally won't create enough current to kill you. Usually. Probably not worth testing excessively though.

Aren't light fixtures typically direct mains power?

Yes but we can only speculate what happened.

My speculation: most of the power went through the light and only a part of it shocked the OP.

Re: ‘That girl is going to get herself killed’ (2022)

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post #23

First I thought that I'm lucky, because I'm not a big outdoor kind of guy. Then I remembered that I've had like 4 close calls while motorbiking, so to each their own risk I guess. (Let's not forget how many people die per year just by falling from a step-ladder etc.)

Something that I was thinking of last week as I stood on the top rung of a wet, icy ladder in a snowstorm, clearing wet snow off a satellite dish!

Re: ‘That girl is going to get herself killed’ (2022)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most of the current is going across your skin, not through it, and stone isn't necessarily a good ground. A light fixture generally won't create enough current to kill you. Usually. Probably not worth testing excessively though.

Aren't light fixtures typically direct mains power?

Limited by the wiring and circuit breakers - typically 15amps.

With as resistive as skin is to electricity, 110 isn't usually enough to overcome it and push power through the heart.

Keyword: usually

Re: ‘That girl is going to get herself killed’ (2022)

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My friend's brother in law was a river guide- 25 years old, arms like tree trunks, wearing his life jacket and helmet, and with years of experience. Drowned anyway while kayaking one summer afternoon. It was a terrible loss, he was a wonderful person. Rivers are dangerous.

Re: ‘That girl is going to get herself killed’ (2022)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Aren't light fixtures typically direct mains power?

Yes but we can only speculate what happened. My speculation: most of the power went through the light and only a part of it shocked the OP.

I'd agree, and not being connected to a good ground helped.

Re: ‘That girl is going to get herself killed’ (2022)

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post #54

Risk can be fun. I don't feel bad if someone gets hurt or killed doing an activity that is inherently dangerous. They died doing what they enjoyed and feeling alive. Don't feel bad for me if I go that way either.

I do feel bad when it seems needless. Lost a good friend to an avalanche in an avalanche-prone area, in dangerous conditions (weak layer in the snow from earlier in the season, big wet dump on top, turns into a slab slide so easily). He could and should have known better. He’s at peace now, as are those of us left behind. I just miss my friend.

Re: ‘That girl is going to get herself killed’ (2022)

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Wait, what? This is like advocating for playing Russian roulette because it's not guaranteed to kill you.

There's a pretty big difference in the odds of a house mains electrical shock stopping your heart compared to the 1 in 6 chance of the bullet being in the chamber that lands in alignment with the barrel.

How big? Big enough to disregard?

Humans are notoriously bad at evaluating probabilities and expected outcomes in probabilistic scenarios, especially in when one possible outcome is catastrophic with low probability. Otherwise you wouldn't see so many reckless distracted drivers on the road.

You are advocating for a public communication strategy that only makes sense in some kind of rationalist fantasy world, but not in the real world.

It's not some conspiracy to infantilize the public, it's just good sense to not do dangerous stuff and tempt fate.

Re: ‘That girl is going to get herself killed’ (2022)

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Rivers are no joke. Took my kids on a chill, grandparent friendly "lazy" river at a campground years ago. One of them flipped their tube on the only hazard half-way down and while we were safe she was in a panic. Fast forward to the same river years later, me and the (older) kids are set to exit the river on a fast shallow rocky area and all of us were almost swept off our feet and (most likely) badly injured. I had to grip my daughters arm so tight I was worried she'd be bruised.

Re: ‘That girl is going to get herself killed’ (2022)

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post #109
post #54

Risk can be fun. I don't feel bad if someone gets hurt or killed doing an activity that is inherently dangerous. They died doing what they enjoyed and feeling alive. Don't feel bad for me if I go that way either.

Yes, risk can be fun. But everyone I encountered in risk sports knew the difference between "smart crazy" vs "dumb crazy". It is the difference between using knowledge, skill, technology, and mental focus to reduce risk to manageable levels, vs "getting away with it". Getting away with it, riding on PDL — Pure Dumb Luck — can work for a long time. Until it doesn't, and you're dead. Like those YouTube idiots in the ar…

Thank you for this. Calculating risks and knowing when to turn back is what keeps my wingsuiting squirrel of a childhood best friend alive to this day, after more than 2000 flights.
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