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Re: I don't read web articles anymore, but I read books

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post #46

Love fiction, love a good blog post, can't for the life of me abide self-help nonsense, especially when it's dressed up as "management strategy".

Self help are wrong terminology imo. I'm just listening (I order a physical book), a Dale Carnegie's 'How to win friends and influence people', and I think it's one of the best book I have read. It's full of examples and published in 1936! Still relevant today, lot's of a good advices and things we knew but forgot. Nothing pushy, just logical.

To be fair- that is just about the only good one I have read.

Re: I don't read web articles anymore, but I read books

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The good things about books is they compel you to truly engage in an argument, an idea, a conception of the world. You can't opt out easily, and that means you ought to be focused. And that's incredibly important, because quality almost always mean quantity. Not only the amount of knowledge in the average book far surpasses 90% of what's on the web, but more importantly information does not come easy, and never has. If it's easy to digest, you most likely won't remember it, which essentially makes the whole thing a loss of time. Learning takes time and reflection. If you don't do either of these you're just consuming things on a surface level: you're losing the attention war waged against your brain.

Re: I don't read web articles anymore, but I read books

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As somebody in Data Science/Predictive Modeling, it's almost entirely useless to read blog posts unless they come from some stellar blogger like say Andrew Gelman. Do a search on any topic, you get a ludicrous list of 'Towards Data Science' posts from kids who learned maybe 30% of what they're talking about over the course of writing the article. Books for me, thanks.

Re: I don't read web articles anymore, but I read books

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For me its easy: Sitting on the computer reading makes me feel depressed. Reading books makes me feel happy. And so I've gradually reduced my footprint on the internet to basically zero -- no social media, only a few sites (mostly HN) bookmarked -- in an effort to make the internet less of a thing. It's working.

Sometimes I'm staring at my screen and I have no clue what to even do or where to go, and I close it and then pick up a book and instantly feel better.

Re: I don't read web articles anymore, but I read books

#145

I feel the opposite. I'm reading fewer non-fiction books and more articles and blog posts. Non-fiction books are bloated with fluff to increase the page count to increase the perceived marketability of the book. A lot of the ideas presented in those books could be adequately presented in a 10th of the number of pages. A huge time-saver has been reading the article versions of stuff that has been turned into a book. Y…

A good example for such a bloated book is "Clean Architecture" by Robert C. Martin. The ideas of the book are more or less completely explained in a single blog post or one of his talks (about 1 hour), but the book has a few hundred pages (432) where he delves into history and talks to you about how he used archaic computers 40 years ago (to render himself as a veteran and to underline some point in the main text).

Another book on the same topic (https://www.packtpub.com/product/get-your-hands-dirty-on-cle...) has only 156 pages and is far more useful in practice - but you'll learn less about the authors adventures in history.

Re: I don't read web articles anymore, but I read books

#146
post #34

I stopped reading non-fiction books. Most of them have about a blog post worth of ideas, but the publisher had the author pad it out to X00 pages because that's what makes their business model make sense. I haven't fully sworn off blogs, but I will skim anything brought to my attention on Medium, a corporate site, or from search results. My default assumption for these is that I'm reading content marketing and not an…

I started writing a real blog. My mindset is notes to myself. A place to collect my own writings and thoughts that I myself would like to refer back to that I also don’t mind sharing. It is almost entirely for myself, but I might as well make what I can public, maybe someone finds it interesting.

What blogging platform or writing tool do you use for this? It seems like an interesting idea I might adopt: write a blog for myself only.

Re: I don't read web articles anymore, but I read books

#147

I feel the opposite. I'm reading fewer non-fiction books and more articles and blog posts. Non-fiction books are bloated with fluff to increase the page count to increase the perceived marketability of the book. A lot of the ideas presented in those books could be adequately presented in a 10th of the number of pages. A huge time-saver has been reading the article versions of stuff that has been turned into a book. Y…

This, 10 times. I have such good blogs in my inbox, with easily the quality of the best books I could read, and I don't even have time to go though them. And I don't see any that I'd like to remove - if anything, I'm sure I could easily add to them if I go through each one's blogroll.

The last non-fiction books on the other hand were huge disappointments. Even Daniel Kahneman, to my surprise: Noise had a good idea and was well written, but could easily have been 1/4 of its size or less. I don't have either the time or patience to go through 75% fluff. It feels more and more like books are written for the less intelligent audience, with the abundance of examples and repetitions.

As for the blogs I read: AstralCodexTen, Zvi, MarginalRevolution, Noahpinion etc. They're obviously not everybody's cup of tea since it's about my tastes and preferences, but I dare anybody to say even above-average non-fiction books are better than that.

Re: I don't read web articles anymore, but I read books

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"Sturgeon's law (or Sturgeon's revelation) is an adage stating "ninety percent of everything is crap". It was coined by Theodore Sturgeon, an American science fiction author and critic, and was inspired by his observation that, while science fiction was often derided for its low quality by critics, most work in other fields was low-quality too, and so science fiction was thus no different." [0]

0 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturgeon%27s_law

Re: I don't read web articles anymore, but I read books

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That’s why I used Pocket and now Offpunk (disclaimer: it’s my own project).

When I find something that looks interesting, I place it in my "toread" list in offpunk. Then I go through that list, picking random articles and reading them… in less (the terminal pager).

It means no scrolling (hit space to display next page), no images, no cruft. Only text. I really read. And a majority of "looks interesting enough to read until the end" are in fact empty or soulless. Thankfully, following blogs through RSS + some gemini capsules, I’m never out of stuff to read. I start to build a relationship with the author, not expecting quick sugar but more a long term understanding of their work and their reflections. (I also read lot of books but I assume we are speaking of computer reading here).

The big takeaway is that, in a browser, I’m not really looking for stuff to read. I’m in fact looking for the dopamine rush of finding something that could be potentially interesting if I take the time to read it. This is frightening: it’s like spending more time watching trailers than watching a good movie (wait… that’s exactly what we are doing with my wife).

For those interested: https://sr.ht/~lioploum/offpunk/

Re: I don't read web articles anymore, but I read books

#150
The quality of content on the internet has gone way down in my opinion. There is a proliferation of content that is so adwords optimized as to be useless, AI or cheapest content farm written, an annoying ad filled video, or some combination of all of those. It's still ok for computing and programming topics, but for almost any other non-fiction or reference type material I greatly prefer books, and older books at that. Not antique books, but even those from about 20 years ago still have much more content and better editing. I'm speaking of topics like gardening, homesteading, military history etc.
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