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I don't read web articles anymore, but I read books

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Re: I don't read web articles anymore, but I read books

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I have noticed the same, however my conclusion is different. Typically when you read a book, your average book has more signal than your average web article or blog post. That's because more filtering has happened, like time, editors, etc. sometimes I find good web content (mostly from the top HN posts) and I don't just scroll, but I read. When I find myself scrolling the first few lines, I immediately close the link…

My experience is completely opposite.

There's a lot of incentive to bump up the number of pages, so most of the time when I pick up a non-fiction book I end up regretting it and shouting into the void this could've been a blog post. Even in decently edited books I always feel like they could've been cut by at least 50 pages without losing any of the substance, but I guess nobody wants to publish a book under 200 pages.

Good articles are not easy to come by, but I never run out of them. The best ones are usually in the range of 30 min - 1 hour to consume, all of which could have easily been padded with fluff into a ~250 pages book, but they weren't and I appreciate that.

That isn't to say I don't read books, but about 90% of them are fiction noawadays. And I do mean read them, as I find that much more engaging than audiobooks (my mind drifts away, I lose the plot often). Good fictions are easy to find, much easier than say TV shows which take longer to consume, or worse get cancelled after a season or two without a satisfying end.

Re: I don't read web articles anymore, but I read books

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The amount of poor quality blogposts, in particular the volume of poor quality blogposts that are covert advertisements for something (a product, a book, the author's self image, the company they run, etc) just means you are very likely reading something that's a waste of time. I've adapted and find books to be more likely valuable information if not particularly fresh information.

But books have the same problem. Ten pages of information spread onto 300 pages to sell the copy.

Re: I don't read web articles anymore, but I read books

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I stopped reading non-fiction books. Most of them have about a blog post worth of ideas, but the publisher had the author pad it out to X00 pages because that's what makes their business model make sense. I haven't fully sworn off blogs, but I will skim anything brought to my attention on Medium, a corporate site, or from search results. My default assumption for these is that I'm reading content marketing and not an…

An odd pleasure of mine that I've subconsciously developed a way to sniff out is "self-help books that are a genuine effort from the author, regardless of whether they're precise or intelligent or verifiable."

You have to watch out for the ones who want to start a business or a cult, but it will be something like "Check out my new system of psycho-cyber-kinetics" and it's just "be kind to people." I imagine a lot of people wouldn't be into this but I love it.

If you've seen the show Severance, the for now imaginary "The You you are" would be a perfect example of this (and I'm hoping they really write it.)

It's not so much for the quality of the content, but for the...feel?

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The more I think about it, I'm realizing I probably do this as an antidote to social media? Social media being "quick, not very thoughtful, hot takes, often unkind" and the above is the opposite?

Re: I don't read web articles anymore, but I read books

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post #66

I noticed I'm no longer reading books. Maybe it's just that I haven't found anything enticing the last few years but in the same way as I don't like watching movies anymore I can't seem to manage to sit down and read a novel. I did read a few technical books, but as someone with 2 kinda full bookcases this is some kind of shock development.

It comes and goes for me but in recent times I've found it harder and harder to read through a book. Similarly I don't watch movies, I find them very hard to sit through.

I've pondered this recently. On the book front I feel I've read a lot of styles and stories and I now need something a bit different to hold my attention. I've sought interesting and weird books. It's not that the books I'm rejecting are bad or worthless, they just feel like they're treading the same tropes. One thing I don't often find is humourful writing that gives an ordinary story some spark and wit.

Re: I don't read web articles anymore, but I read books

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I read more online, both blogs and books. For what read, a lot of books are available for free online, and much easier to look up words, names, the odd bit of Latin or French etc… I can read much faster when not moving my eyes and flipping pages. The biggest factor is comfort. Books tend to hurt my neck. They’re often heavy to hold. I have to constantly shift around to turn pages. When reading off a large monitor the text is big, and I don’t have to look down, so no neck strain, and I can scroll with my mouse. I still love and buy books but read more online.

Re: I don't read web articles anymore, but I read books

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post #83
post #34

I stopped reading non-fiction books. Most of them have about a blog post worth of ideas, but the publisher had the author pad it out to X00 pages because that's what makes their business model make sense. I haven't fully sworn off blogs, but I will skim anything brought to my attention on Medium, a corporate site, or from search results. My default assumption for these is that I'm reading content marketing and not an…

An odd pleasure of mine that I've subconsciously developed a way to sniff out is "self-help books that are a genuine effort from the author, regardless of whether they're precise or intelligent or verifiable." You have to watch out for the ones who want to start a business or a cult, but it will be something like "Check out my new system of psycho-cyber-kinetics" and it's just "be kind to people." I imagine a lot of…

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Re: I don't read web articles anymore, but I read books

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Honestly, I wish I could side with books for this for non-fiction (I'm old school), but often I find that much of it is filler. E.g. Wim Hof's book - as much as I love the WHM, it really could have been done in a chapter or two. The rest was just rehashing the same concepts again and again. That said, I have a real soft spot for College text-books. The newer ones are often beautifully written.

Re: I don't read web articles anymore, but I read books

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I stopped reading non-fiction books. Most of them have about a blog post worth of ideas, but the publisher had the author pad it out to X00 pages because that's what makes their business model make sense. I haven't fully sworn off blogs, but I will skim anything brought to my attention on Medium, a corporate site, or from search results. My default assumption for these is that I'm reading content marketing and not an…

I'm not off non-fiction entirely but I do agree with one variation: I don't read non-fiction books that are written as prescriptive "do this to succeed" business advice. Nothing turns me off more quickly. Those books are right up there with top-X lists or "do this to succeed" twitter threads.

Re: I don't read web articles anymore, but I read books

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Didn't this sentiment come with hypertext? If books had clickable links we'd have a difficult time finishing them. It's just a different way to read. Both have very obvious, very ancient, strengths and weaknesses. When you get sick of take out, you can go garden. When you get sick of gardening, get take out.

> Didn't this sentiment come with hypertext? If books had clickable links we'd have a difficult time finishing them.

Absolutely!

I think that the hyper-twitch consumption model has become so ubiquitous that some people have forgotten how to slow down, though.

I prefer the slow model, personally, but I was born before the internet went big.

Re: I don't read web articles anymore, but I read books

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post #34

I stopped reading non-fiction books. Most of them have about a blog post worth of ideas, but the publisher had the author pad it out to X00 pages because that's what makes their business model make sense. I haven't fully sworn off blogs, but I will skim anything brought to my attention on Medium, a corporate site, or from search results. My default assumption for these is that I'm reading content marketing and not an…

I started writing a real blog. My mindset is notes to myself. A place to collect my own writings and thoughts that I myself would like to refer back to that I also don’t mind sharing. It is almost entirely for myself, but I might as well make what I can public, maybe someone finds it interesting.
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