Deere to allow farmers to repair their own equipment

Post by rqtwteye » Mon, Jan 09, 2023, 1:01 PM UTC

themitigating wrote: post #87

29athrowaway wrote: post #31

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The damage is already done. MBAs had no long-term vision, so in each company they infested, they made poor strategic decisions such as moving manufacturing overseas, which then forced other companies to move their manufacturing overseas. The countries they chose have zero respect for intellectual property. So now what's left are zombie companies milking their cash cows dry as international competitors arise and take…

The goal of any business is to make money, it's why they exist. Moving production overseas saves money. I don't see why this has anything to do with MBAs

Post by [deleted] » Mon, Jan 09, 2023, 1:10 PM UTC

jacquesm wrote: post #109

Deere's competitors should go all-in on maintainability and documentation as a countermove. When it starts to eat into their marketshare they'll pay attention, until then they will just drag their heels as much as legally possible. Unfortunately Case IH, New Holland, Claas and Kubota all have a similar attitude towards their customers, which makes this an industry wide problem, not a John Deere problem. Legislators s…

Post by randomdata » Mon, Jan 09, 2023, 1:11 PM UTC

ENGNR wrote: post #67

randomdata wrote: post #18

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Deere rose up to being one of the top equipment brands because they put extra effort into ensuring the equipment was repairable. There is a lot of equipment in the scrap heap from other brands that you can't get parts for. Theoretically you can repair them, but the cost to hire someone to recreate/design a one-off part can be extraordinarily expensive. Deere likes to boast that they have parts in stock for equipment…

But if the software is just a feature flag, I can write my own one of those and not pirate their software at all It sounds more like artificially inflating the price for hardware

Post by [deleted] » Mon, Jan 09, 2023, 1:13 PM UTC

29athrowaway wrote: post #15

mulmen wrote: post #13

Deere’s position on right to repair is heartbreaking to me. I paid for books (and beer) in college as a truck driver and mechanic for a custom harvest operation. We ran Deere 6602 combines from the 1970s, in the early 2000s. Deere’s tagline was “nothing runs like a Deere” but in my experience it was more like “nothing can be made to run like a Deere”. We spent a lot of time on maintenance but very little on repairs.…

Another MBA'ed company. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4VBqTViEx4

Post by throwaway9870 » Mon, Jan 09, 2023, 1:18 PM UTC

Neil44 wrote: post #68

I'm not a farmer but harvest time can be pretty intense. You might only have a narrow window to get certain crops in where the crops are ready and the weather has been right and your onward destination can accept them physically and contractually. So have all the other farms. And that crop represents your yearly income. So you have all this demand in this time window and you have equipment sitting there cause compute…