I’m telling you, the only way out of this mess is to eliminate qualified immunity, and becoming a cop should entail forfeiting many civil rights in exchange for insurmountable amount of power a cop has. US police is basically a military, and should be treated as such.
Police forces seem to work just fine without such measures in other countries. I wonder if there are any studies on what the difference is or the differences are that cause the discrepancy in violence.
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#112Earlier quoted context omitted.
>If that doesn't provoke any sort of "this is deeply unjust and a massive abuse of power" reaction in you, I don't expect any amount of explaining will result in you understanding people's reaction. In most of the world trafficking drugs is a serious crime with jail. Maybe in USA it is different, I admit I don't know. My original comment was that it is highly irresponsible to be doing that with a family. My first aut…
It's a serious crime; it's not a violent crime. You don't see the cops busting down doors and charging in with riot shields and shotguns to catch your average white-collar fraudster, even though fraud is also a serious crime. This level of violent entry can only be justified by a reasonable belief, founded on evidence (which the police refuses to produce), that the suspect will be violent. (As an aside, there's no ev…
In my experience there’s a very deeply ingrained sense that police are the good guys lingering in average suburban Americans of a certain age. (I’m sure in others too that’s just my background.) It’s really hard to discuss these kinds of topics with someone that by default accepts that police action implies necessity.
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#113Earlier quoted context omitted.
I posted this one because it's a tiny bit more family friendly than the one you mentioned. This scandal makes me think the Constitutional Sheriff movement might be very bad. https://www.themarshallproject.org/records/2587-constitution...
For those new to the term "Constitutional Sheriff" > The Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association (CSPOA) is a political organization of local police officials in the United States who contend that federal and state government authorities are subordinate to the local authority of county sheriffs. Self-described constitutional sheriffs assert that they are the supreme legal authority with the power and d…
Per Marbury v. Madison (5 U.S. 137): "It is emphatically the province and duty of the Judicial Department to say what The Law is." and "A Law repugnant to the Constitution is void." (Opinion of the court via Chief Justice John Marshall).
As legally authorized officers of the Judiciary, Sheriffs and their deputies are obliged to interpret and act upon the law.
Not terrifying at all: this has been the status quo since 1803.
If you find this terrifying, do not become a Judicial Officer. These people handle treason on a daily basis.
P.S. I sympathize with Afroman, and support and appreciate his music. As intelligent citizens, I think he knows the law as I do, perhaps even better than me (because he's a celebrity).
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#114The song from his previous music video about the raid is much catcher IMO ( https://youtu.be/ISe3IVBBbyU ). Also, going through his channel it's crazy to see how prolific he's been. More on topic, the raid seems like a total miscarriage of justice- these sheriffs rolled up in camo and busted in like they were storming bin Laden's compound. All that work to confiscate 2 joints (its actually kinda funny, I would've ass…
I watched that video when this was going around on reddit recently. That "white supremacists on my premises" hook is one of the slickest rhymes I've heard in a while.
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#115Earlier quoted context omitted.
For those new to the term "Constitutional Sheriff" > The Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association (CSPOA) is a political organization of local police officials in the United States who contend that federal and state government authorities are subordinate to the local authority of county sheriffs. Self-described constitutional sheriffs assert that they are the supreme legal authority with the power and d…
Time to get that EU passport kids.
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#116Back story https://www.vice.com/en/article/7k83gq/afroman-raided-by-cop...
When asked for comment, Adams County Sheriff Kimmy Rogers said the result of a neighboring sheriff’s office investigation into Afroman’s claim is imminent. He also that the attention the rapper’s songs have generated has turned into a wave of threats against his deputies. “I can handle it, but I don’t appreciate some of the messages coming in about Adams County deputies getting ambushed, ‘I hope they die slow,’” Roge…
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#117Watching this video is a reminder that if we could just enforce a minimum level of cardiovascular health via something like a three mile run time limitation or something like that the police force would naturally weed out people with poor impulse control and probably be overall a more humane and decent force.
>minimum level Meditating again on the conflicting requirement that: 1) Cops be intelligent, physically fit, free of troublesome political biases, cool under stress, be willing to risk being shot by criminals and, 2) Not be paid $500,000 a year. "Cops are paid too much" is an evergreen topic on sfgate. Here's a recent story: https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/S-F-overtime-costs-soar-... If you want the best of the b…
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#118Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah I wonder on what grounds the police can start unplugging shit in your house. This also happened in the Adrian Schoolcraft case - when the police burst into his house to take him in he was recording audio on one device which they found, unplugged and destroyed ... but they failed to find the second device (which is how we know). It's kinda wild how if the police might have a grudge against you, you'll have to set…
See Public Enemy, '911 is a Joke', https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZDIitWz8Go
I mean I'm editorialising a little, but while both suggest that black people are getting a pretty rotten deal decades after people usually thing the struggle for civil rights for black people were fought and ultimately won ... one indicates real, visceral hatred towards a single institution which has famously and repeatedly been confirmed to be well deserved (and additionally as a phrase or slogan is itself very well known around the anglophone world). The other does neither.
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Time to get that EU passport kids.
Please don't. It's....er....full of terrorists here, portions are only half, there's a war 24 hours drive away, our politicians are not our representatives [apparently], we speak different languages and even dialects, clothing sizes are really fucked up - your XXXL might be hard to find - amazon is delivered by disabled people only, one part of Europe uses different money and a new part of Europe just got the same mo…
Oh I see, Belarusian friend tells me you just get tortured and flee to another country by thousands then.
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Please don't. It's....er....full of terrorists here, portions are only half, there's a war 24 hours drive away, our politicians are not our representatives [apparently], we speak different languages and even dialects, clothing sizes are really fucked up - your XXXL might be hard to find - amazon is delivered by disabled people only, one part of Europe uses different money and a new part of Europe just got the same mo…
No guns? How are you gonna defend your constitution against a treasonous dictator? Oh I see, Belarusian friend tells me you just get tortured and flee to another country by thousands then.
If you escalate from peaceful protests to armed conflict, then a modern military will win over a bunch of farmers on any given day, provided that rules of engagement are loose enough. What good is your AR-15 covered in patriotic Eagle stickers against A-10 Thunderbolt?