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Re: Will You Help Me Repair My Door [video]

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Post by Someone1234 »

upsidesinclude wrote: post #66
kuhewa wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Am I missing something? A 300 word piece by a think tanker?

Honestly, I don't blame you. A genuine news release from a .gov site was not on the first couple pages of search results. However, that is by design. https://gov.alaska.gov/supreme-court-decision-forces-biden-a...

That political press release doesn't support your earlier point that it was proven "unconstitutional." In fact review of the SCOTUS opinion shows that they (6-3) found that OSHA exceeded their congressional authority, not violated the US Constitution.

> “Although Congress has indisputably given OSHA the power to regulate occupational dangers, it has not given that agency the power to regulate public health more broadly,” the court wrote

If you want to show how this was unconstitutional then you'll need to show something else entirely. This SCOTUS opinion isn't proof of that, no matter if it is from a ".gov" site or not.

Re: Will You Help Me Repair My Door [video]

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Post by scotty79 »

lucb1e wrote: post #84
yakkityyak wrote: post #25

I’m telling you, the only way out of this mess is to eliminate qualified immunity, and becoming a cop should entail forfeiting many civil rights in exchange for insurmountable amount of power a cop has. US police is basically a military, and should be treated as such.

Police forces seem to work just fine without such measures in other countries. I wonder if there are any studies on what the difference is or the differences are that cause the discrepancy in violence.

Not really. When there's something wrong at the local level it's obvious they can't investigate themselves. People from central authority show up to sort things out and see who's ass needs to get fired without paying attention to any local power structure.

The only chance for local police to get away with it to keep it from reaching the central at all.

It doesn't mean that central won't try to cover the ass of local if the reputation of the whole police is at stake.

Re: Will You Help Me Repair My Door [video]

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Post by fckgnad »

Rebelgecko wrote: post #3

The song from his previous music video about the raid is much catcher IMO ( https://youtu.be/ISe3IVBBbyU ). Also, going through his channel it's crazy to see how prolific he's been. More on topic, the raid seems like a total miscarriage of justice- these sheriffs rolled up in camo and busted in like they were storming bin Laden's compound. All that work to confiscate 2 joints (its actually kinda funny, I would've ass…

I like this one better because it cracks me up more then the other music video.

Let me ask you something officer, any kidnapping victims inside my suite pockets?

Re: Will You Help Me Repair My Door [video]

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Post by tbrownaw »

losteric wrote: post #26
etc-hosts wrote: post #6

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I posted this one because it's a tiny bit more family friendly than the one you mentioned. This scandal makes me think the Constitutional Sheriff movement might be very bad. https://www.themarshallproject.org/records/2587-constitution...

For those new to the term "Constitutional Sheriff" > The Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association (CSPOA) is a political organization of local police officials in the United States who contend that federal and state government authorities are subordinate to the local authority of county sheriffs. Self-described constitutional sheriffs assert that they are the supreme legal authority with the power and d…

> As a result, they may sometimes be referred to as sovereign sheriffs.

I'm sure that'll work about as well as that "sovereign citizen" thing that some people try.

Re: Will You Help Me Repair My Door [video]

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Post by ookdatnog »

perceptronas wrote: post #95
ookdatnog wrote: post #93

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> I am not saying anything, just trying to understand people's reaction with the limited information. It seems conflicting to me. I'm not sure how anyone could explain it to you if you have no automatic reaction to what happens in the video. The amount of force used seems to me to be obviously excessive for the crime Afroman is accused of (that is, selling weed), to the point where I don't see how I could possibly cl…

>If that doesn't provoke any sort of "this is deeply unjust and a massive abuse of power" reaction in you, I don't expect any amount of explaining will result in you understanding people's reaction. In most of the world trafficking drugs is a serious crime with jail. Maybe in USA it is different, I admit I don't know. My original comment was that it is highly irresponsible to be doing that with a family. My first aut…

It's a serious crime; it's not a violent crime. You don't see the cops busting down doors and charging in with riot shields and shotguns to catch your average white-collar fraudster, even though fraud is also a serious crime. This level of violent entry can only be justified by a reasonable belief, founded on evidence (which the police refuses to produce), that the suspect will be violent.

(As an aside, there's no evidence that Afroman is guilty of selling drugs; that makes it even harder for me to understand why your first gut response is to think "how can someone with kids do that". There's no reason to think he's guilty, apart from blind trust in the police's word.)

Re: Will You Help Me Repair My Door [video]

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Post by joenot443 »

perceptronas wrote: post #77
whatshisface wrote: post #76

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I can't believe I'm pointing this out on HN of all places, but if making a song about weed gets your house raided and is considered probable cause, then the government is infringing your first amendment rights.

Warrant picture shows 'trafficking in drugs', not making a song about weed. I am not sure about full context.

I’m not sure if you’ve had much experience with American police, but having an accusation written on a warrant is rarely proof a crime actually occurred.

Re: Will You Help Me Repair My Door [video]

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Post by joenot443 »

josephcsible wrote: post #79
whatshisface wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't believe I'm pointing this out on HN of all places, but if making a song about weed gets your house raided and is considered probable cause, then the government is infringing your first amendment rights.

If you confess to a murder, the fact that your confession was protected First Amendment speech doesn't mean you shouldn't be convicted of murder. What's the difference between that and your example?

Producing art about a character committing a crime is different from admitting that you’d committed a crime. One is art, one is (hypothetically) an admission of guilt. That’s the difference.
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