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Microplastics are finding their way into fruit and vegetables as they grow

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Re: Microplastics are finding their way into fruit and vegetables as they grow

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Post by pixl97 »

not_enoch_wise wrote: post #74
Der_Einzige wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The real story is the massive increase in LGBT identification across the youth. I strongly believe that a large component of this is biological due to hormonal changes.

Thank you for not wasting a single valuable second backing your belief up with evidence.

Beau of the fifth column did an episode on this sometime within the last year. That is on the number of youth identifying as LBGT... it's amazing how many people that are something will publicly identify as that thing if they are not at risk of being humiliated, beaten, or even killed for it.

Re: Microplastics are finding their way into fruit and vegetables as they grow

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Post by zoklet-enjoyer »

pixl97 wrote: post #88
zoklet-enjoyer wrote: post #62

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Who even uses straws? Straws should be reserved for the disabled.

Dentists recommend using a straw, especially when you have braces. I don't think you're plan will be well taken.

I was at a bar earlier and there were 2 straws put in my drink. I didn't need them. I didn't use them. Most people don't need straws

Re: Microplastics are finding their way into fruit and vegetables as they grow

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Post by Eisenstein »

pixl97 wrote: post #87
kennywinker wrote: post #82

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How many people in your life re-use grocery bags? I'm fairly certain grocery bag bans are a net-win when viewed from the perspective of total plastic usage, because MOST people would have to be using them at least twice for the result to be anything other than a net-win from any perspective but mine. I only managed to use about as many as I was given because I got pretty good at remembering my re-usable bags... The p…

Single use grocery bags are problematic in the sense they use almost no resources individually. Anything you're replacing them with uses far more plastic and/or energy to produce. A reusable bag tends to need reused dozens to a hundred times for the material needed to make it. Then add in you need to wash the reusable to avoid spreading food borne contamination and the ratio gets even worse.

I just use a backpack.

Re: Microplastics are finding their way into fruit and vegetables as they grow

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Post by fleddr »

Der_Einzige wrote: post #61
fleddr wrote: post #34

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I do think there's a limit to how much doom and gloom an individual can productively handle and I suppose this also applies to society as a whole. People seem to accept that it's all downhill from here, and sometimes even cynically applaud it. Like with the male sperm story. It's catastrophic and accelerating, yet got near-zero attention. The few responses to it seem to celebrate it. Humanity lacks a story for the fu…

The real story is the massive increase in LGBT identification across the youth. I strongly believe that a large component of this is biological due to hormonal changes.

I don't know about the hormonal changes, you'd have to back that one up.

But regardless, we can't ignore some major cultural shifts. LGBT is an example where you have real LGBT and what seems to be a cultural version of it. People honestly probably not belonging to that group in a lasting way, but joining in regardless.

It's fits a larger pattern of creating a persona with as many victim labels as possible. These labels creating the self-fabricated identity, which are then used to excuse yourself from your own flaws and bring down the "privileged", those with less labels.

This may be fun for a while but the obvious danger is that this self-obsession over identity gets you nowhere in the real world. Nobody gives a crap about these labels nor can you hide behind them.

You should not read this stereotyping the wrong way. I have empathy for minorities, I loathe the cultural version of it where it's worn like fashion or weaponized.

And I do worry about social contagion. A teenager chronically online in the most gullible part of their lives are absolutely affected. A teenager will believe anything you tell them and they'll copy anything other teenagers do.

Teenagers are idiots. Source: once was one.

Re: Microplastics are finding their way into fruit and vegetables as they grow

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Post by beecafe »

Der_Einzige wrote: post #61
fleddr wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I do think there's a limit to how much doom and gloom an individual can productively handle and I suppose this also applies to society as a whole. People seem to accept that it's all downhill from here, and sometimes even cynically applaud it. Like with the male sperm story. It's catastrophic and accelerating, yet got near-zero attention. The few responses to it seem to celebrate it. Humanity lacks a story for the fu…

The real story is the massive increase in LGBT identification across the youth. I strongly believe that a large component of this is biological due to hormonal changes.

Or it could be that people are LGBT and can now safely come out and be LGBT? If you look at a chart of handness, as left-hander were no longer forced to be right-handers, the proportion of left-handers shot up till stabilizing at the naturally occuring population level. Why couldn't it be the exact same is occurring with LGBT identification?

Re: Microplastics are finding their way into fruit and vegetables as they grow

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Post by tnel77 »

nonethewiser wrote: post #25
sampo wrote: post #22

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> Sounds like a great idea until you realize that cars and trucks drive on the roads and grind them into dust - dust containing microplastics. Car tires themselves wear down and produce microplastics. I would guess the tires wear down more than the road, so the contribution from road would be minuscule, comparing to the contribution from the tires. https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/article/tires...

The contribution from the road is independent of the contributions from the car. By your reasoning, if the micro plastics from cars increased, so could the micro plastics from the road, even to astronomical levels, so long as it's less than the cars.

I think they probably mean that there are potentially bigger problems to solve in the world of micro-plastics.

Re: Microplastics are finding their way into fruit and vegetables as they grow

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Post by [deleted] »

garbanz0 wrote: post #32

Microplastics are so pervasive that they're even found in human breastmilk now. Maybe it's fatalistic, but what is the point of worrying about this on an individual level beyond limiting use of certain plastic products? And it's not just microplastics - we're seeing other news about "forever chemicals," hormones in our food, the global drop of average male sperm production by 50% (!!!), etc. At a certain point, apath…

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Re: Microplastics are finding their way into fruit and vegetables as they grow

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Post by xvilka »

fleddr wrote: post #34
garbanz0 wrote: post #32

Microplastics are so pervasive that they're even found in human breastmilk now. Maybe it's fatalistic, but what is the point of worrying about this on an individual level beyond limiting use of certain plastic products? And it's not just microplastics - we're seeing other news about "forever chemicals," hormones in our food, the global drop of average male sperm production by 50% (!!!), etc. At a certain point, apath…

I do think there's a limit to how much doom and gloom an individual can productively handle and I suppose this also applies to society as a whole. People seem to accept that it's all downhill from here, and sometimes even cynically applaud it. Like with the male sperm story. It's catastrophic and accelerating, yet got near-zero attention. The few responses to it seem to celebrate it. Humanity lacks a story for the fu…

> People seem to accept that it's all downhill

Not everything will go downhill. Some things surely, but not everything - some things will go uphill. For example, suppose climate change eliminates half of Earth biosphere, including half of humans. Chances are, their medicine, technology, education, social structure will still be better.

Re: Microplastics are finding their way into fruit and vegetables as they grow

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Post by Jarwain »

lnsru wrote: post #33
garbanz0 wrote: post #32

Microplastics are so pervasive that they're even found in human breastmilk now. Maybe it's fatalistic, but what is the point of worrying about this on an individual level beyond limiting use of certain plastic products? And it's not just microplastics - we're seeing other news about "forever chemicals," hormones in our food, the global drop of average male sperm production by 50% (!!!), etc. At a certain point, apath…

I am absolutely with you. Total apathy. I can’t do anything. My 100% waste goes to local recycling system. I pick up thrash when I am in the nature and bring home. Even left by others. I avoid synthetic clothing and wear only when I really need it. And still micro plastic in the air everywhere. How is this happening!?

Tire and break pad wear produce quite a lot of microplastics.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S016041202...

Re: Microplastics are finding their way into fruit and vegetables as they grow

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Post by _hcuq »

andrewstuart wrote: post #12

(reposted comment) I’ve got a bee in my bonnet about “plastic roads”. Many countries, desperate to make use of the gargantuan flow of waste plastic, and desperate to avoid it going into landfill, are putting the waste plastic into roads. This is called “recycling”. Sounds like a great idea until you realize that cars and trucks drive on the roads and grind them into dust - dust containing microplastics. The microplas…

Plastic recycling is just greenwashing by the plastics industry.
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