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Re: ChatGPT won’t replace search engines any time soon

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Bing announced their ChatGPT deal the next day: https://www.theregister.com/2023/01/04/microsoft_openai_chat...

I really wonder how the economics of running chatgpt for Bing's request will work. GPT is anything but cheap to run, IIRC, it requires more than four A100 GPU cards.

Re: ChatGPT won’t replace search engines any time soon

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...But ChatGPT's successors just might . I, for one, look forward to a future in which I can ask a digital assistant to find and summarize information on anything: "Computer, please find out how GPS works and explain it to me like I'm five years old." "Computer, what are the latest Covid-19 infection stats in my city?" "Computer, who is Claude Shannon and why is he important?" "Computer, what are the top three storie…

That is, if you can blindly trust the answers.. if it could provide the top sources for the information so I could fact-check it if needed, it would work

We're going to have a generation of people that are cock sure about things because ... ai, but they won't actually know jack shift. It sort of happened with google. People can figure something out but they don't systematically get things. Shallow explanation. Goldfish attention span

Re: ChatGPT won’t replace search engines any time soon

#55

ChatGPT will flood the internet with articles like how SEO was used to hack search. It might not replace search engine, but search results will becomes even more irrelevant.

I can imagine AI replacing search engines in a somewhat far future, but in the meantime, it'll mostly be used to flood the internet with many low quality articles. Consequence will be as you said, but I also wonder if it won't lower the quality of new AI trainings as well.

Re: ChatGPT won’t replace search engines any time soon

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Computer, please find out how GPS works and explain it to me like I'm five years old." ChatGPT: GPS stands for Global Positioning System. It is a way that we can figure out where we are in the world using special satellites. Imagine you are standing outside and you see lots of stars in the sky. Well, GPS works kind of like that, but instead of stars, there are satellites orbiting the Earth. These satellites are way…

The second half of that explanation is completely wrong though, isn’t it? There is no active signal being sent from your GPS antenna, no two-way communication.

The first half is wrong too. GPS has nothing to do with satellites being able to see lots of things from high up. The whole thing is just nonsense that looks plausibly like an explanation until you try to decipher it.

Re: ChatGPT won’t replace search engines any time soon

#57
I remember when web search engines were new. And boy did they suck. You wouldn’t get what you wanted a lot of the time, and they were very finicky about the input query.

These days you can just throw stuff at it like “that movie about the depressed guy with a plane engine that falls on their house”

I’m not sure ChatGPT is going to replace search engines, but I’m confident that it is incredibly young and will evolve considerably.

Re: ChatGPT won’t replace search engines any time soon

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It already has replaced Google for some of my needs. If I want a simple answer to queries like: How to make a Sazarac What’s a good waffle recipe How do I change the O2 sensor on a 1982 911SC I find ChatGPT issues perfectly good answers without all of the superfluous results, words, clickbait, and ads. And for many other questions that are technical, medical, or trivial in nature I prefer its simple one-shot response…

Perhaps we'll see OpenAI grow to be the Google of 2022?

Re: ChatGPT won’t replace search engines any time soon

#59
It seems like an article from Kodak or Nokia. It's only a matter of time, and it will be sooner rather than later, that multimodal LLMs will replace search engines. All of the problems mentioned in the article are being addressed as we speak.

Advanced retrieval transformer + RLHF + LAMBADA[1] = RIP old search engines.

1. https://arxiv.org/abs/2212.13894

Re: ChatGPT won’t replace search engines any time soon

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If Google search actually searches (find articles or sites with keyword) then yes: ChatGTP or it’s successor would never replace Google search. But Google search so broken (at least for me) so it looks more like broken or badly implemented ChatGTP.

> But Google search so broken (at least for me)

Every single time I've seen this claim made and the person shared their methodology for searching on Google, it becomes very apparent that the problem is not Google, but the user.

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