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Study finds that buttons in cars are safer and quicker to use than touchscreens

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Re: Study finds that buttons in cars are safer and quicker to use than touchscreens

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Post by newaccount74 »

tremon wrote: post #166
dazc wrote: post #152

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man-child The most worrying increase I see around here is the use of a vehicle as an assault weapon. I think it was popularized by ISIS terrorists (Nice and Berlin IIRC), but over the past year we've had multiple incidents of people driving into crowds or cops over a previous altercation. I cannot fathom why such an offense does not lead to a lifelong driving ban. But that's not really on-topic when discussing drivin…

> people driving into crowds or cops over a previous altercation. I cannot fathom why such an offense does not lead to a lifelong driving ban.

I'd hope that someone who consciously drives a car into another person would spend the rest of their life in prison (which effectively includes a driving ban)

Re: Study finds that buttons in cars are safer and quicker to use than touchscreens

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Post by richbell »

WalterBright wrote: post #287

Why would one need a study for this? It's obvious. I always have to look at the touchscreen to press a button on it, not so for buttons. The touchscreen doesn't always "take" it, either, and I have to try several times.

We shouldn't shame people for performing obvious studies: studying it can either disprove false beliefs, or yield more insight.

There is a very real problem in the sciences that doing "unsexy" science is treated a waste of time.

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Post by rootusrootus »

phpisthebest wrote: post #129
messe wrote: post #120

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Generally, it only tends to come up in any area where the market seems to be failing consumers. This is interpreted as an externality that the market doesn't account for (in this case consumer safety, in the case of USB-C charging e-waste), which regulations are then introduced to correct for.

>>in this case consumer safety Ironic since safety laws is what put the screens in the cars in the first place, the regulation requiring backup camera's which required large screen to show the picture. >>in the case of USB-C charging e-waste lol, yea that is not the reason for USB-C regulation, nor was that needed at all, and that will handicap either the EU or global innovation. What ever comes next to replace USB-C…

> requiring backup camera's which required large screen to show the picture

Some cars put the picture from the backup camera in the rearview mirror. There was no mandate to use a big tablet size screen anywhere.

Re: Study finds that buttons in cars are safer and quicker to use than touchscreens

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Post by rootusrootus »

WalterBright wrote: post #287

Why would one need a study for this? It's obvious. I always have to look at the touchscreen to press a button on it, not so for buttons. The touchscreen doesn't always "take" it, either, and I have to try several times.

This gets said a lot, but I'd like to see a study that suggests that people use buttons in their car without looking. It's reasonable to say it's easier to hit the button, and might require less looking, but I'd bet almost everyone looks at the button before pressing it.

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Post by Animatronio »

phpisthebest wrote: post #250
messe wrote: post #223

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You're right. I'm not. I'm not even convinced you're arguing in good faith any more, because frankly I can't imagine how a rational and empathetic individual could have reasoned themselves into these opinions. I'm not going to argue with you any more, because you're either a troll, or someone to who can't be reasoned out of their opinions simply because they didn't reason themselves into them.

>>I can't imagine how a rational and empathetic Empathy and rationality are often in conflict, you seem to side more on the empathetic side where I do not. I am purely on the logical / rational side and freely admit to having very low Empathy. >>someone to who can't be reasoned out of their opinions simply because they didn't reason themselves I literally linked to a site called Reason.com.... It provides a very reas…

For a site called reason the article surely is dumb AF. First the author argues back and forth about BAC levels. Maybe it should be .05? Or .08? Or something else? Well how about 0.00 as is in many other countries?? Then he somehow misses the fact that BAC levels can be deduced from blood samples taken hours after the actual police stop. No wonder they let him go in 2011.

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Post by procarch2019 »

WalterBright wrote: post #287

Why would one need a study for this? It's obvious. I always have to look at the touchscreen to press a button on it, not so for buttons. The touchscreen doesn't always "take" it, either, and I have to try several times.

Remember old phones with buttons? I bet everyone over 30 could have texted a someone with their phone under the table or in their pocket. I’m sure there’s some people who could do that with a touchscreen, but not everyone

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Post by CodexArcana »

phpisthebest wrote: post #181
Symbiote wrote: post #171

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I am generally pleased with the EU's approach to defending me against pollution and traffic accidents.

That however was not my opening inquiry which was "is there any area of life at all in the EU that should be free from government interference?"

That's not what you said. You said "why does the EU believe that every part of life needs government regulation."

And it's because, as Milton Friedman once said, "a corporation's responsibility is to make as much money for the stockholders as possible."

Without a counter balance you wouldn't have seat belts, crumple zones, fuel efficiency standards, the list goes on and on. Safety is not the responsibility of the corporation. Their only priority is profit.

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Post by vicnov »

epolanski wrote: post #128
phpisthebest wrote: post #104

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>>I would love to see some EU legislation Why does the EU believe every facet of life needs to be ordered and control by government regulation, is there any area of life at all in the EU that should be free from government interference? That is an honest question because every time anything comes up the first response from citizens of the EU is to declare government should be the right and proper resolution to the pr…

They should in this case, this involves road and public safety.

the ultimate safety is ban all cars and stay at home. it is always an exercise in balancing.

Legislating UI seems... weird? If people feel uncomfortable driving with touch screens, they may choose not to buy cars with touch screens.

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Post by phpisthebest »

bonzini wrote: post #275
phpisthebest wrote: post #170

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Talk about Amazingly bad takes. >They didn't mandate touch screens ofcourse... they just mandated a large expensive screen that naturally the automakers and consumers would love to have right up front visible to the driver for about 10secs per use of the vehicle and be used for nothing else ever. This is the kind of "forethought" that makes for terrible regulation, and unintended consequences, I bet you would make fo…

> No one is toss out their iPhone because it has a lighting cable, and most are not even tossing the chargers as for less than $5 you can get any adapter to any other port... You must have forgotten the days where all chargers had a molded cable instead of the USB-A socket that is standard these days, and the plug was different for each and every brand. So each phone came with both a custom cable and a custom charger…

That was never really the case, even back in the Flip phone days it was Mini USB which some people did not know was a standard.

Then came micro USB, which was used for ALOT of devices, and still is

Then came Apple brought Lightening which USB then responded with USB-C

>> where all chargers had a molded cable

So, you can still put an adapter on the end.

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Post by nmeagent »

phpisthebest wrote: post #145
PreInternet01 wrote: post #95

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Oh, I'm fine with digital readouts, as long as there is an analog backup for when you hit that unavoidable software bug. Airplanes get this right: even on the latest Airbus, you still have the basic altitude, air/vertical speed and heading instruments, in a familiar place and configuration, based on boring physical/analog principles, just in case you need them... (and, because they're mandated by FAA [14 CFR 91] and…

Those are included on Airplanes because you need those to make a safe stop (aka Landing) you DO NOT need a speedometer or any dash display at all to safely pull a car to the side of the road and stop. Therefore they should not be mandated under safety regulation, if you have a car with a digital display and it fails you pull your car to the side of the road, put on your hazards and call for a tow to the mechanic Just…

> you DO NOT need a speedometer or any dash display at all to safely pull a car to the side of the road and stop.

You do if there isn't a good place to stop and you need (or would rather) keep driving for awhile first, say in the middle of an obnoxious construction zone with no shoulder, or on a mountain pass with no shoulder, or in a sketchy area in the middle of the night (summoning a tow truck can literally take hours depending on where you are), etc.

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