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Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]

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Re: Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]

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Post by smcl »

ethbr0 wrote: post #158
smcl wrote: post #139

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I have no idea who this "dijit" is, if you're upset with them you should tweet at them. I'm talking about a handful of people on HN pretending not to know that if you were to refer to me as "(((smcl)))" somewhere you are making the statement "hey smcl, I know you're Jewish. I want you to know that, and I want my little alt-right friends to know that too..." edit: ok so digit is one of the people further down the thre…

> I'm talking about a handful of people on HN pretending not to know I'm a person on HN. I didn't know that. It's pretty esoteric, and that's coming from someone who's APL-curious. But then, I don't spend any of my time reading alt-right or anti-alt-right blogs.

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Re: Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]

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Post by nigamanth »

dijit wrote: post #13
donkeyd wrote: post #5

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Looking at the Reddit thread about this, there was some arguably racist stuff going on in his repo which could've been related to this suspension. I'm not sure whether this is the right way to handle such things (banning those specific repo's might be better), but it would be somewhat understandable.

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Stolen as in how stolen? Did he give credits or not? I use templates for common shit all the time, but I'm not banned from GH.

Re: Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]

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Post by nigamanth »

noirscape wrote: post #68
muglug wrote: post #43

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There’s a Reddit thread that goes into some detail: https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/103upr6/au...

So it seems the actual reason for the suspension is that Automatic had a mod for the colony-sim game RimWorld that disables certain skin colors from appearing in the game. If you're not familiar, these sorts of mods are near universally made for racist dogwhistling; they're the "barely passable but not really" version of mods that would straight up whitewash non-white characters. The entire debacle started a couple o…

How is the mod's actions his fault? That's like someone working for me messing up and me paying the cost for it.

Re: Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]

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Post by jojobas »

isoprophlex wrote: post #132
jojobas wrote: post #77

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Those other "damning" examples are still idiotic and misguided. TL/DR he made a "white only", "black only" and "yellow only" mods for NPCs in some game and somebody apparently misinterpreted a tag in an artists list file.

Interesting. Maybe I was fooled by some deliberate outrage machine. I only read about the "white only" mod. Not the other two. Talk about cherry-picking... The silver lining of this bullshit is that this again underscores how important critical thinking is.

If you think making 3 such mods is not racist yet just one is, think again.

Re: Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]

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Post by nigamanth »

scarygliders wrote: post #2

Reddit thread here : https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/103upr6/au... update: Gitgud repo created here : https://gitgud.io/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui (Gitgud seems to be really slow) Further update : Account was suspended due to "TOS violations" : https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/103uwx1/au...

Any GitLab or BitBucket repos for the same?

Re: Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]

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Post by actualwitch »

SpEd3Y wrote: post #122
smcl wrote: post #71

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GitHub will have removed this because they don't want to be seen hosting racist shit on their platform. They don't want that because as it turns out the vast majority of the population isn't on board with racism, so not doing so would empower their competitors, hurt their brand and affect their bottom line. It's the same with Disney (the "oh a black little mermaid!?" stuff) and all the other the other ultimately bana…

I agree with what you're saying. I don't like racist/homophobic/transphobic behavior but I find it hard to reconcile that with free speech. And I think they only way you can change someone's mind is by allowing free speech and engaging in conversations with them to try to change their minds. Banning them would just make them look for other channels to communicate and find like minded people and their bad ideas will n…

> And I think they only way you can change someone's mind is by allowing free speech and engaging in conversations with them to try to change their minds

... if the person you are engaging with is open to having their mind changed. If you ever tried that with online trolls, you would quickly find out that's not really going to happen when person on the other side doesn't want that and can just decide to waste as much of your time as they can.

Re: Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]

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Post by isoprophlex »

iinnPP wrote: post #183
Semaphor wrote: post #128

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n: There are also black artists tagged that way who seem to very rarely depict people at all. And both the white and 1+ of the n-tagged black artists depicted some non-black people. Rimworld: It was whites only at first, black only got added later and then integrated.

Thank you. Personally I would not call any of the actions racist. The first one can be a legitimate use case with an incredibly poor choice of identifier (or incredibly good in at least one scenario). The mod being updated kind of argues for itself. I think I will see on the side of caution and call it ignorance instead of malice. The scenario is one where the n is completely harmless and the purported(on Reddit) wor…

Yeah it's all very confusing, and the thing that is most sorely missing is some human communication from github about the why of this ban.

Re: Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]

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Post by smcl »

rendall wrote: post #188
Semaphor wrote: post #135

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I’d say both are likely ;) But it’s telling that the ADL at first refused to add it to their list of hate-signs, and then (according to wikipedia, after all I only heard of all this today) reversed their stance 2 years later. And almost all usage of the sign getting someone into trouble have also been 2019+ (again, from the wiki list).

Always use the OK sign (to mean OK), even if someone else uses it to mean something else. Use it aggressively, always, relentlessly, as protest against bigotry and against language policing.

If you're going to use it "aggressively, always, relentlessly" then you may have to brace yourself for the occasions when you use it to someone from Brazil (where it's said to be a gesture along the lines of the middle finger) or with black-bloc counter-protestors near a nazi rally, or any other context where it's considered hateful or just generally rude. The Brazilian may just think you're an asshole. The black bloc guys will assume you are with the nazis who just hospitalised their friend...

This is what's important - it's not banned, it's not going to get you jailed. It's just going to land you in a tricky situation if you use it where it's going to be interpreted as a hate symbol.

What you do with this information is up to you.

Re: Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]

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Post by JustSomeNobody »

moomin wrote: post #186
oefrha wrote: post #44

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I have no frigging idea even triple parentheses are unspeakable now. Just ran rg '\(\(\(.*\)\)\)' in my projects directory and found many instances authored by me. Guess I should prioritize fixing these, or next time I'm the target of some controversy, someone will use these as evidence of my antisemitism.

I suggest getting annoyed at the people who are constantly trying to think of new anti-Semitic dogwhistles. They make everyone's life harder.

The mental effort that goes into thinking of new ways to hate other people is astonishing.

Get.A.Life.People.

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