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Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]

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Re: Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]

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Post by machina_ex_deus »

keewee7 wrote: post #155
machina_ex_deus wrote: post #140

Need to call this bullshit by its name: Microsoft killing their competition. They had just released their own version of stable diffusion in bing a moment ago and now they ban the biggest competition from GitHub. I don't believe they didn't know what they are doing. They definitely have statistics about repo usage and the guy suspending him definitely knew that it's one of the most popular repos out there. Microsoft…

A1111 did the following things: - Made a mod removing all non-white characters in a video game. - Put black people and artists who draw black people in a category/folder called "n". - Is allegedly also anti-semitic but I don't think the "((()))" thing is proof of that. I don't think there is anything Micro$ofty going on. Just a racist being banned.

They can ban the offending repo. They are either extremely incompetent or malicious, either way I'm totally avoiding GitHub from now on. Absolutely disgusting behavior.

Re: Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]

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Post by kmlx »

keewee7 wrote: post #155
machina_ex_deus wrote: post #140

Need to call this bullshit by its name: Microsoft killing their competition. They had just released their own version of stable diffusion in bing a moment ago and now they ban the biggest competition from GitHub. I don't believe they didn't know what they are doing. They definitely have statistics about repo usage and the guy suspending him definitely knew that it's one of the most popular repos out there. Microsoft…

A1111 did the following things: - Made a mod removing all non-white characters in a video game. - Put black people and artists who draw black people in a category/folder called "n". - Is allegedly also anti-semitic but I don't think the "((()))" thing is proof of that. I don't think there is anything Micro$ofty going on. Just a racist being banned.

> - Made a mod removing all non-white characters in a video game.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=15187...

“Edit 26-mar-2020: finally, the injustice has been corrected: all races are welcome! You can choose the range of skin colors you want in mod settings.”

> - Put black people and artists who draw black people in a category/folder called "n".

this doesn’t really mean anything.

> - Is allegedly also anti-semitic but I don't think the "((()))" thing is proof of that.

besides using () for weights what other proof do you have for your public accusation?

> Just a racist being banned.

love these kinds of conclusions drawn from conjectures.

Re: Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]

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Post by [deleted] »

NDizzle wrote: post #110
noirscape wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So it seems the actual reason for the suspension is that Automatic had a mod for the colony-sim game RimWorld that disables certain skin colors from appearing in the game. If you're not familiar, these sorts of mods are near universally made for racist dogwhistling; they're the "barely passable but not really" version of mods that would straight up whitewash non-white characters. The entire debacle started a couple o…

Ah yes, the extreme racist groups of… RimWorld players. Ridiculous.

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Re: Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]

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Post by nightpool »

cypress66 wrote: post #145
Semaphor wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Playing advocate to your advocate: Then why have the category as n when all (?) others are full words or even multiple? And they are all in English, black comes to mind first for black. Regarding the content: That would still be a questionable classification, but even more so for someone like "RETNA (Marquis Lewis)" who rarely ever seems to depict people. All in all it’s very sketchy, though one could probably constr…

Maybe RETNA is mislabeled, and the general idea is to group artists with a "black style". I think the most likely scenario is that automatic's trying to group that style, which is fair and the purpose of those categories after all, and him coming from 4chan is no stranger to the n word, so that's what came to his mind.

And you still don't see how that could be considered racist, like you said in your previous comment? How "him coming from 4chan is no stranger to the n word" might be inconsistent with you "assuming the best of people."?

Re: Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]

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Post by throw_me_5555 »

VCBullshitter wrote: post #12

How is this news when we all know git is decentralized? News at 11: company enforces their own TOS. Github is about as useful as a brand of kleenexes. If y'all didn't want this you wouldn't have used your damn pull request software to host your code.

It maters since decentralization is not a silver bullet. There is always some main repo, and it is hard to change it, or even just inform people about change. If you want other people to participate in your project then hosting it on biggest/most popular service reduces entry barrier

Re: Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]

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Post by ntauthority »

Adding my own n=1 anecdote here - a member contributing to an open source project I'm involved in, who had a few repositories on GH with extensions to that project but no other notable 'negative' activity, had gotten a permanent suspension from GitHub a few years ago for responding to a mildly abusive issue report on the main project with the well-known 'Navy SEALs copypasta'... the abuser then reported them and their account - including their helpful and invaluable extension repositories - was nuked, while the abuser then could continue to abuse under both the original account and various other aliases.

They left the community shortly after, likely in part fueled by the way an abuser got their GitHub account destroyed while the abuser pretty much remained unscathed.

Re: Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]

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Post by Beaver117 »

pca006132 wrote: post #149
violini wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good point, I agree it's not comparable to what has been alleged in this case. I used Linus just as an example of a very high-profile and widely beloved open source leader, to contrast this relatively unknown developer. Though, now I think on it, some of the words he used in the past on the mailing list are considered "-ism" level offensive by some people today: "dumb", "retarded", etc. Hopefully no cancellations inc…

Really? "dumb" and "retarded" are considered "-ism" level offensive? What about retroactive abortion and the like? Is it so easy to trigger cancellation nowadays?

Yes, saying the latter word on reddit will get your account permanently banned site-wide...

Re: Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]

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Post by rendall »

bongobingo1 wrote: post #24
dijit wrote: post #13

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> Prior to its use as an antisemitic label or identifier, ((( screen name ))) had been used in online communities such as AOL to indicate that a user was "cyberhugging" the user with the specified screen name. Why are all the nice things ruined by bigots.

> Why are all the nice things ruined by bigots.

They aren't. If we just go about doing our thing such as using triple parentheses to mean hugs and the OK symbol to mean OK and the country's flag to mean reasonable love of home and country, then they'll find some other symbol. By making a big deal about what those people get up to and so avoiding them, we cede these beautiful, powerful symbols to assholes. Don't do it. It's the ceding that ruins them.

Re: Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]

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Post by AlexandrB »

Mountain_Skies wrote: post #58
Semaphor wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just wait till you hear that some circles of the net think using pepe the frog is a racist dog whistle.

Or that using the ok finger gesture briefly was career ending because 4chan openly declared a psyop to see if they could bait social media into declaring it a white supremacist symbol. Worked like a charm and hysteria abounded for a couple of months before the next hysteria was birthed and that one quickly forgotten. Unfortunately, some people who don't keep up with the day-to-day changes in what's considered unaccep…

QAnon was a 4chan psyop and look where that ended up. These things tend to take on a life of their own once removed from their original context.
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