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Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]

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Re: Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]

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Post by smcl »

Ekaros wrote: post #40
smcl wrote: post #15

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I think if you’re doing racist stuff, you should expect that the owner of the platform you’re doing it on will probably not like that and find a way to kick you off. The user is probably not a card carrying neo-nazi, but I’m sorry this is 2023, how on Earth can people still expect not to get called for juvenile 4chan-level trolling like this?

Because no one should care. Just fully ignore them, do not engage with trolls or people whose politics you don't care about. Maybe we should instead ban those who call out this stuff or describe it in malicious ways...

GitHub will have removed this because they don't want to be seen hosting racist shit on their platform. They don't want that because as it turns out the vast majority of the population isn't on board with racism, so not doing so would empower their competitors, hurt their brand and affect their bottom line. It's the same with Disney (the "oh a black little mermaid!?" stuff) and all the other the other ultimately banal things that get people frothing at the mouth about corporations going "woke" - it's not a conspiracy, it's not about politics, it's simply bad business to appear welcoming to hateful or bigoted people.

That said, I personally think it should be difficult to be racist, homophobic, transphobic and the like online. I'm not engaging in debates, posting outraged tweetstorms or trying to get anyone doxxed/fired/cancelled when I see some anonymous edgelord throwing the n-bomb around or calling for LGBTQ+ friends to be killed. I'm just going to quietly report the post and move on.

Re: Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]

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Post by proto-n »

input_sh wrote: post #39
ashirviskas wrote: post #6

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How would it be a coincidence? Looking through that file, I can't think of a single charitable interpretation for that categorization.

Yeah. Did some digging, apparently the user stated that "n and c are no comment" [1]. From context its not clear whether they don't want to comment, or if the characters literally stand for "no comment". But to me it seems the former: it appears it's not necessarily about the author, but what the art depicts. C seems to be children.

[1] https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/xl8bj2/aut...

Re: Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]

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Post by varispeed »

ta8903 wrote: post #54
cypress66 wrote: post #27

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That's a nice example of false accusations. Parenthesis are used for increasing the weights of some terms. See how he uses single, double or triple parenthesis on different words. It has nothing to do with the triple parenthesis jew thing.

No way, next thing you'll tell me Lisp isn't actually an antisemetic dogwhistle.

*dogwiphple

Re: Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]

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Post by gitfan86 »

input_sh wrote: post #39
ashirviskas wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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How would it be a coincidence? Looking through that file, I can't think of a single charitable interpretation for that categorization.

It is extremely common for programmers to use short names while coding. I use "const r" a lot instead of "const results".

Do you think I'm doing that because I hate a group of people that are called a derogatory word that begins with r?

Re: Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]

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Post by _8j50 »

pizza wrote: post #31
violini wrote: post #19

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What do the double and triple parentheses mean in context of a Stable Diffusion prompt like the one you linked? e.g. might it apply some weighting to the phrase? Additionally, I wonder, looking at that prompt, maybe he was banned for beastiality.

If this is about racist shit I’ll be the first to admit that’s a shame. It’d be better if the judgment of that was handed down by the community- if it indeed is the case - rather than obscure tos maneuvering, but, well, we don’t exactly live in the most perfect of all worlds. That said I believe in the capacity for people to not be like how they used to be, and, furthermore, my opinion on why this is happening isn’t…

What community? What if the majority are racist? Does MS have an obligation to host racist or even undesirable content on github?

Re: Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]

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Post by bunbun69 »

poszlem wrote: post #66
rgoulter wrote: post #60

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> they really should quote a specific violation of specific TOS when they close your account. I suspect this ends up being impractical, due to helping the bad actors too much. I think moderation being so inconsistent/unclear is mostly because moderation is difficult.

And yet it's the minimum we expect from our legal system, I don't understand why we are okay with corporations being exempt from that.

Using GitHub is a privilege, not a right

You should do your business elsewhere if you don't agree with GitHub TOS

Re: Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]

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Post by jojobas »

isoprophlex wrote: post #25
dijit wrote: post #13

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Strange if true. Those triple parentheses are weight modifiers, increasing the importance of the tokens inside. This reddit link posted elsewhere gives a more damning view, aside from the triple parentheses: https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/103upr6/co...

Those other "damning" examples are still idiotic and misguided. TL/DR he made a "white only", "black only" and "yellow only" mods for NPCs in some game and somebody apparently misinterpreted a tag in an artists list file.

Re: Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]

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Post by rgoulter »

sammy2255 wrote: post #10

Having a Rimworld mod that removes black characters is not enough to warrant a platform ban, in my opinion.

I'm reminded of the quote:

> "It should be noted that no ethically-trained software engineer would ever consent to write a DestroyBaghdad procedure. Basic professional ethics would instead require him to write a DestroyCity procedure, to which Baghdad could be given as a parameter." - Nathaniel Borenstein

Re: Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]

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Post by poszlem »

Mountain_Skies wrote: post #69
poszlem wrote: post #45

Whatever side you are on in this debate of "should GitHub decide what is good and bad" I think most people would agree that they really should quote a specific violation of specific TOS when they close your account. This should be the norm, as opposed to the current situation in which you are left wondering what the hell was problematic that some GitHub employee disagrees with. The corporation may benefit from having…

Tech companies hate citing the actual TOS violations because if they did, people might follow them to the letter and then the tech company wouldn't have a justification to ban them. They love having a system where they can arbitrarily declare anything and anyone to be in violation of the terms of service and not have to back it up with an actual citation. Some on HN in that past have said this is ok because people wh…

Of course is is a feature to them. This is honestly like being in an abusive relationship where you never know if you're going to get praised or beaten up, so you always have to be on high alert.

But we should not be okay with them doing that.

Re: Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]

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Post by dsr_ »

oefrha wrote: post #44
cypress66 wrote: post #27

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That's a nice example of false accusations. Parenthesis are used for increasing the weights of some terms. See how he uses single, double or triple parenthesis on different words. It has nothing to do with the triple parenthesis jew thing.

I have no frigging idea even triple parentheses are unspeakable now. Just ran rg '\(\(\(.*\)\)\)' in my projects directory and found many instances authored by me. Guess I should prioritize fixing these, or next time I'm the target of some controversy, someone will use these as evidence of my antisemitism.

Using multiple parens around a name is derogatory code for "this person is Jewish". Context is important.
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