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Bill Gates: I'm literally losing sleep over Java (1996)

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Re: Bill Gates: I'm literally losing sleep over Java (1996)

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Post by kragen »

Scaevolus wrote: post #45
kragen wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

github just removed git: urls from their web ui so it no longer tells you how to make a clone you can push from using standard git it's been replaced with instructions for using their own gh cli tool (which, however, is also free software) for example on any github project page, https://github.com/username/projectname , click on the "code ↓" button in the top right; the "local" tab on the left has a "clone" tab with…

You have to be logged into github for the SSH clone tab to appear-- if they don't know your pubkey you can't connect using the SSH protocol. Git can push over HTTPS, too.

aha, that wasn't previously the case, thanks for the correction

whether i'm logged in in my browser has nothing to do with whether my ssh client has access to an authorized private key

Re: Bill Gates: I'm literally losing sleep over Java (1996)

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Post by kragen »

Kab1r wrote: post #50
kragen wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

github just removed git: urls from their web ui so it no longer tells you how to make a clone you can push from using standard git it's been replaced with instructions for using their own gh cli tool (which, however, is also free software) for example on any github project page, https://github.com/username/projectname , click on the "code ↓" button in the top right; the "local" tab on the left has a "clone" tab with…

I don't think this is true

see correction in other subthread

Re: Bill Gates: I'm literally losing sleep over Java (1996)

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Post by maveonair »

ryanmccullagh wrote: post #24

Oracle had already acquired Sun by the time I was in the technology industry. The respondent states that Sun is so set on giving things away. Can someone comment on the culture of Sun at that time? Sun seems to have left a legacy in the open source community. What was the business logic on giving away the software for free? I know it's very common today, but Sun may have been a leader in open source. Any books recomm…

I can recommend the book “Steve Jobs and the NeXT big thing”. The Author compares NeXT a lot with Sun including their business strategies. I have never thought I will learn so much about the early days of Sun by reading this book.

https://www.amazon.com/Steve-Jobs-Next-Big-Thing/dp/06891213...

Re: Bill Gates: I'm literally losing sleep over Java (1996)

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Post by pototo666 »

resonious wrote: post #30

> First, the excitement is overblown - at least from a business perspective. At the moment Java is expanding into a vacuum. It allows you to make cool web pages, and that is a very attractive thing for people. It gives programmers something new to learn, book people something new to sell books on, software tool companies a way to issue new development tools etc. This is a pretty interesting take, and it feels relevan…

> no one will be going out of business just because their frontend isn't React

Yes.

But one is more likely to go out of business if their frontend is still using JQuery. It's harder to maintain and iterate, harder to recruite good engineers.

I would ask for more money if the company hiring me uses JQuery and doesn't use TypeScript/React. And if the company somehow hires me, I would be less productive because I can't use TypeScript and a modern framework.

Re: Bill Gates: I'm literally losing sleep over Java (1996)

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Post by zdragnar »

kragen wrote: post #51
Scaevolus wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You have to be logged into github for the SSH clone tab to appear-- if they don't know your pubkey you can't connect using the SSH protocol. Git can push over HTTPS, too.

aha, that wasn't previously the case, thanks for the correction whether i'm logged in in my browser has nothing to do with whether my ssh client has access to an authorized private key

Given the number of users who are novices to both git and ssh and all the rest, and also given that the UI doesn't really have room for "teaching" (it's already a popup, so adding another popup would be pretty ugly), I think it is a fairly reasonable change.

Clearly, more people were confused by the original than outraged about the current implementation... I don't even recall the change being made.

Re: Bill Gates: I'm literally losing sleep over Java (1996)

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Post by [deleted] »

resonious wrote: post #30

> First, the excitement is overblown - at least from a business perspective. At the moment Java is expanding into a vacuum. It allows you to make cool web pages, and that is a very attractive thing for people. It gives programmers something new to learn, book people something new to sell books on, software tool companies a way to issue new development tools etc. This is a pretty interesting take, and it feels relevan…

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Re: Bill Gates: I'm literally losing sleep over Java (1996)

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Post by midhhhthrow »

pototo666 wrote: post #54
resonious wrote: post #30

> First, the excitement is overblown - at least from a business perspective. At the moment Java is expanding into a vacuum. It allows you to make cool web pages, and that is a very attractive thing for people. It gives programmers something new to learn, book people something new to sell books on, software tool companies a way to issue new development tools etc. This is a pretty interesting take, and it feels relevan…

> no one will be going out of business just because their frontend isn't React Yes. But one is more likely to go out of business if their frontend is still using JQuery. It's harder to maintain and iterate, harder to recruite good engineers. I would ask for more money if the company hiring me uses JQuery and doesn't use TypeScript/React. And if the company somehow hires me, I would be less productive because I can't…

I’ll take jquery over react any day of the week and ask for less money because it’s more productive
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