You fat fucks just eat less and go for a walk.
‘Breakthrough’ obesity drugs that have stunned researchers
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#742I’m currently taking one of these drugs and it has been no less than a miracle in my life. I became obese when I was around 5, topping out around a 34 BMI. When I was 20 I lost a substantial amount of weight the old fashioned way (diet and exercise), and within 8 months I was BMI 23. Losing weight was extremely challenging and socially isolating. 7 years later, I had a bad ankle injury and regained weight to about 29…
I'm also on one of these drugs (Tirzepatide) and have been for a few months. The first time I remember knowing I was fat was when a babysitter made fun of me for it at age 6. I've been fat ever since and I'm in my late 30s now. I've lost significant amounts of weight (60+ pounds) three times in my adult life, through simple calorie restriction (intermittent fasting, including before I'd ever heard the term). Every ti…
Please try eating only liver, eggs, and ribeye steaks and drinking only water. You can absolutely stuff yourself on this diet and you will nevertheless get in shape. It breaks my heart that people have such an upside down idea about what healthy food is -- people think they should avoid red meat and eat fruits and vegetables and "heart healthy grains" when in fact the only thing they should eat is red meat. It is a tragedy almost beyond description -- there are millions of people in your situation who have been thwarted in their weightless journeys at every turn because we've been getting the wrong information about what food is healthy for us to eat. In addition to losing weight, you will also completely eliminate heartburn. Just try it.
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That makes sense but it may also be that you just need to make different social circles. There are tons of casual sports teams, for example, and those people are all bonding over playing volleyball casually (not at a high level or something) or things like hiking. Now your social activities are helping you lose weight
Nope, lots of casual sports teams will have people say, "hey we couldn't really socialize during the game, let's go grab a beer afterwards?". Hiking is similar, "hey let's take a break and eat some lunch."
"I brought cookies for the team today, who wants one"
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I'm also on one of these drugs (Tirzepatide) and have been for a few months. The first time I remember knowing I was fat was when a babysitter made fun of me for it at age 6. I've been fat ever since and I'm in my late 30s now. I've lost significant amounts of weight (60+ pounds) three times in my adult life, through simple calorie restriction (intermittent fasting, including before I'd ever heard the term). Every ti…
I was just saying the exact same thing to my wife yesterday. We’re both trying to lose weight, for the millionth time in the 20 years we’ve been together. Exasperated, I just said “I don’t get it. I was an artist who had no technical background, and was able to teach myself computer science and now I’m a highly successful engineer. I did that. And yet I can’t lose 10 pounds to save my life.” It’s so hard to eat healt…
Just eat only liver, eggs, and ribeye steaks -- you can absolutely stuff yourself and you will lose weight. The problem is that as a society we are sending the wrong message about what healthy food is -- nothing from a plant is really good for humans to eat. A diet of only red meat, however, will not only get you in phenomenal shape, but it will also clear up a dozen other major and minor health issues. It is the perfect human diet and it is a tragedy that this is not understood.
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>I've heard people say that the solution is to eat (healthy food) when you're hungry, and stop when you're full. The thing is, I'm never full. I can eat until I physically can't eat anymore (not something I do regularly, of course), and as soon as my stomach has emptied a bit, I feel fairly hungry again. "Eat until you feel full" is literally a human experience I had never really had. I hear people following a carniv…
> high protien, high fat, and zero carb Basically a keto diet, of course it works due to ketosis.
A carnivore diet is not necessarily a ketogenic diet, although it is a zero-carb diet. If you eat enough protein then your body will make glucose from it and keep you out of ketosis. But I agree that a diet of only red meat is absolutely ideal no matter which angle you look at it from.
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> high protien, high fat, and zero carb Basically a keto diet, of course it works due to ketosis.
I think the problem with Ketosis is that people are too busy trying to eat a lot of fats. You just need healthy fats, protein and vegetables.
You don't need vegetables.
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That makes sense but it may also be that you just need to make different social circles. There are tons of casual sports teams, for example, and those people are all bonding over playing volleyball casually (not at a high level or something) or things like hiking. Now your social activities are helping you lose weight
Nope, lots of casual sports teams will have people say, "hey we couldn't really socialize during the game, let's go grab a beer afterwards?". Hiking is similar, "hey let's take a break and eat some lunch."
Then take up trad climbing or jiu-jitsu. Ok those aren't for everyone, but your tone is way too dismissive. There are many, many social groups that will naturally encourage better exercise and fitness, if folks are interested.
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> everyone, even the skinny folks, should be on GLP1 drugs Seriously? No thanks. Think I'll give you all a few decades to see what the long-term effects are like, and let my body largely take care of itself except when specific medical issues indicate that an intervention is in order.
The only proven way to live longer and reduce your risk of essentially every disease is to reduce caloric intake. So unless you are underweight, the benefits could outweigh any side effects. I am not advocating that everyone take these drugs--but I understand why someone might suggest it
Why not just follow a diet of only beef, eggs, and liver? This is the most nutrient dense diet you can follow and as a result you'll reduce your calorie intake while increasing your feelings of satiety. Also, you'll resolve a dozen major and minor health conditions.
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Haven't heard anyone talk about the Shangri-La diet in ages. I did a slight variation of this for awhile way back in my 30s at it worked great. Recently testing this out with OMAD but haven't been doing it long enough to see if it is workable. I'm in my 50s now and a lot of things that worked wonders in my 30s do not work as well as they once did.
I'm going to try this because I recently fell off the OMAD wagon, and it usually takes me 3 solid days of white-knuckling it to get back to it feeling natural without wanting to eat during the day. Wondering if some plain celery or olive oil can ease the transition.
I'm going to try it with my omad diet because I only remember to take my supplements if I do it in the morning, but some are fat soluble, and the zinc can cause nausea on occasion, but if I get any carbs in the morning I get hungry. Some mct oil or light olive oil seems perfect. The toothpaste thing seems problematic. There are some bland ones, maybe I'll switch.
Re: ‘Breakthrough’ obesity drugs that have stunned researchers
#750I’m currently taking one of these drugs and it has been no less than a miracle in my life. I became obese when I was around 5, topping out around a 34 BMI. When I was 20 I lost a substantial amount of weight the old fashioned way (diet and exercise), and within 8 months I was BMI 23. Losing weight was extremely challenging and socially isolating. 7 years later, I had a bad ankle injury and regained weight to about 29…
I've done keto for three months and my body's ability to process fat has completely changed. I honestly think were never meant to eat as many carbs as we do in a day. It sounds like a very similar symptoms except only for the first few weeks of Keto. Ketosis is where the body starts to use fats to produce its own sugars for the blood rather than relying on carbs to suppliment. Anyway I'm off keto now and I find mysel…
I'm doing carnivore -- it's like keto but better.