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When should you eat is just as important as what you eat

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Re: When should you eat is just as important as what you eat

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Post by maerF0x0 »

tchaffee wrote: post #44
trabant00 wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We have plenty of studies about this from body building. What you eat is orders of magnitude more important than when you eat. So while you can measure effects of timing and they are real, they are insignificant to most but the top competition level where 1% can make a difference.

Those studies give a good idea of the effects on body builders. You can't just automagically extend that to the general population.

Also the part that most people forget is that studying bodybuilders is most often also studying people who are on performance enhancing drugs ("steroids").

Re: When should you eat is just as important as what you eat

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Post by the-printer »

iLoveOncall wrote: post #46
the-printer wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Personally, I learned this from Dr. Andrew Huberman… https://podclips.com/c/why-andrew-huberman-avoids-caffeine-f... https://www.reddit.com/r/AdvancedFitness/comments/qaq6z4/dr_... Sources should be in the show notes of the corresponding podcast episodes. Anecdotally: I can tell the difference.

Podcasts and Reddit is the same as no source at all. If it's not a peer-reviewed published research (actually, multiple) it's not credible. It doesn't mean it's wrong, but presenting it as a fact like the OP did is wrong and potentially extremely harmful.

Ahem.

Sources should be in the show notes of the corresponding podcast episodes.

Re: When should you eat is just as important as what you eat

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Post by Eddy_Viscosity2 »

the-printer wrote: post #34
fellowniusmonk wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've never heard that caffeine prevents the clearing of adenosine receptors, a quick google didn't show anything with that side affect, do you have a particular citation? I'd definitely change coffee consumption habits if that is the case.

Personally, I learned this from Dr. Andrew Huberman… https://podclips.com/c/why-andrew-huberman-avoids-caffeine-f... https://www.reddit.com/r/AdvancedFitness/comments/qaq6z4/dr_... Sources should be in the show notes of the corresponding podcast episodes. Anecdotally: I can tell the difference.

The only source for this I have seen is Huberman saying it on podcast and also clips of him saying it on a podcast. But he did say it very authoritatively, so probably good enough.

Re: When should you eat is just as important as what you eat

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Post by rolph »

fellowniusmonk wrote: post #26
maerF0x0 wrote: post #18

Pretty junky article, because it doesn't define the goal, and therefore cannot give any recommendations either. Is the goal weight loss? Is the goal sleep quality? Is the goal how to maximize muscle protein synthesis (and add weight)? When it comes to weight loss (and when the right muscle sparing tools are in place, also fat loss) total Calories in vs Calories out dominates. Don't get fooled, both sides of the equat…

I've never heard that caffeine prevents the clearing of adenosine receptors, a quick google didn't show anything with that side affect, do you have a particular citation? I'd definitely change coffee consumption habits if that is the case.

i found this for you:

https://content.iospress.com/articles/journal-of-alzheimers-...

despite the title, it is commonly cited re caffiene vs adenosine.

the [PDF]is here:

https://content.iospress.com/download/journal-of-alzheimers-... [PDF]

Re: When should you eat is just as important as what you eat

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Post by merryboxingday »

The earlier you eat, the less hungry you are, ergo you eat less.

Then you go to sleep and your body suppresses hunger overnight, and in the morning, it’s much easier to eat less or skip breakfast completely.

Weight = calories - burned energy

How you limit the calories or burn the energy is up to you.

Re: When should you eat is just as important as what you eat

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Post by ilyt »

maerF0x0 wrote: post #48
iLoveOncall wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Podcasts and Reddit is the same as no source at all. If it's not a peer-reviewed published research (actually, multiple) it's not credible. It doesn't mean it's wrong, but presenting it as a fact like the OP did is wrong and potentially extremely harmful.

> Podcasts and Reddit is the same as no source at all. Nah, c'mon, Most of us are unqualified to synthesize the dozens (if not hundreds) of sources it takes to be an expert in a field. Saying podcasts and reddit is the same as no source is like saying "People are no source" -- it entirely depends on the person. > Andrew D. Huberman is an American neuroscientist and tenured associate professor in the department of neu…

Science or "science" around caffeine and food constantly bombards people with conflicting advice so I think that in this case it's fair to as more than "the guy said so on a podcast".

It's akin sayin "he's developer for 10 years, clearly nothing he said about software is wrong", which would get you laughed out of the room

Re: When should you eat is just as important as what you eat

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Post by BossHogg »

While I think timing is important (my sleep improves significantly when I stop eating several hours before sleeping, even better if the last meal is high fiber), suggesting that timing is equally important to food quality is obvious nonsense. Try eating just garbage but at all the "right" times and see how that works for you.

Re: When should you eat is just as important as what you eat

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Post by klyrs »

knocte wrote: post #37
kensai wrote: post #35

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Exactly. Eating an early dinner is a huge advantage for a healthy sleep.

As for me, I can't fall asleep if I eat too early dinner. Food makes me sleepy so I have dinner quite late to avoid rolling over my bed for hours.

Same; if I get hungry before bed, I simply cannot sleep. I'm not sure about the specificity of Gouda, but I've always found cheese to be an excellent before-bed snack.

When I was younger I'd eat ice cream before bed. People were always dismayed, certain that it would give me nightmares. But that never happened. I just started gaining weight and no longer keep ice cream in the house.

Re: When should you eat is just as important as what you eat

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Post by trabant00 »

tchaffee wrote: post #44
trabant00 wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We have plenty of studies about this from body building. What you eat is orders of magnitude more important than when you eat. So while you can measure effects of timing and they are real, they are insignificant to most but the top competition level where 1% can make a difference.

Those studies give a good idea of the effects on body builders. You can't just automagically extend that to the general population.

Researchers are aware of this, the studies are on regular people - a lot of them on people who never exercised before - just in a body building scenario. I wasn't very clear in my first post.

Re: When should you eat is just as important as what you eat

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Post by tchaffee »

trabant00 wrote: post #59
tchaffee wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Those studies give a good idea of the effects on body builders. You can't just automagically extend that to the general population.

Researchers are aware of this, the studies are on regular people - a lot of them on people who never exercised before - just in a body building scenario. I wasn't very clear in my first post.

Which studies specifically?
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