I discovered that the relationship between when I eat and when I exercise is as important for fat loss as what I eat or that I exercise. Lift weights at 3pm, don't eat until 6, and there's a 3-hour window where my body is both 1) low on "ready energy" and 2) appetite suppressed, both due to the exercise, and tends to burn fat. Small amounts, to be sure, but enough to trend things downward. Whereas if I eat shortly after working out, my weight remains steady.
When should you eat is just as important as what you eat
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#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
There is a general sense of earlier is better: > Research is starting to show the same effects in humans. One study on weight loss that compared the times of eating among participants over a 20-week period revealed that those who ate lunch earlier lost more weight than those who ate it later. A related study found that those who ate later burned less energy than those who ate earlier.
> A related study found that those who ate later burned less energy than those who ate earlier. Big question on this one: Was it testing the same people, or was it observational / correlation-seeking? Because I can imagine people who burn less energy in general eat later because they're not hungry, rather than the other way around.
Energy expenditure does not predict eating schedules.
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#24I read the article. My summary: It is better for your health to eat earlier than later. The worst time to eat is at night. While an ideal time to eat isn’t given, it’s probably somewhere between 8am-1pm.
Notwithstanding that a specific hour doesn't mean much without knowing one's schedule, I believe avoiding food within approx 5 hours of bedtime is the guideline I usually come across in studies. Intermittent fasters should take note rather than discounting a reproducible body of evidence as "propaganda". Its possible to do IF on an early schedule.
> Its possible to do IF on an early schedule.
I'm considering inverting my IF schedule. I typically eat 1-2 meals today. Some days, I won't eat my first and only meal until 5:00 pm. Other days, I'll eat my first meal later in the afternoon, at about 2:00 pm and then again at about 6:00. Through IF, I've been able to shed about 20 pounds (160lb to 140lb) and sustainable keep it off.
However, I miss eating breakfast with my family, especially during winter, when a warm bowl of porridge...just hits the spot. So, I'm really considering during winter time frame, to switch up IF to an early schedule and experiment a bit.
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#25I discovered that the relationship between when I eat and when I exercise is as important for fat loss as what I eat or that I exercise. Lift weights at 3pm, don't eat until 6, and there's a 3-hour window where my body is both 1) low on "ready energy" and 2) appetite suppressed, both due to the exercise, and tends to burn fat. Small amounts, to be sure, but enough to trend things downward. Whereas if I eat shortly af…
Yeah fasted workouts are great.
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#26Pretty junky article, because it doesn't define the goal, and therefore cannot give any recommendations either. Is the goal weight loss? Is the goal sleep quality? Is the goal how to maximize muscle protein synthesis (and add weight)? When it comes to weight loss (and when the right muscle sparing tools are in place, also fat loss) total Calories in vs Calories out dominates. Don't get fooled, both sides of the equat…
I've never heard that caffeine prevents the clearing of adenosine receptors, a quick google didn't show anything with that side affect, do you have a particular citation? I'd definitely change coffee consumption habits if that is the case.
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#27I discovered that the relationship between when I eat and when I exercise is as important for fat loss as what I eat or that I exercise. Lift weights at 3pm, don't eat until 6, and there's a 3-hour window where my body is both 1) low on "ready energy" and 2) appetite suppressed, both due to the exercise, and tends to burn fat. Small amounts, to be sure, but enough to trend things downward. Whereas if I eat shortly af…
Yeah fasted workouts are great. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6983467/
Thanks for sharing the article. Sounds like the article recommends against training while fasting, but that advice is geared towards endurance athletes:
"Our review of the literature suggests that there is little evidence to support the notion of endurance training and fasting-mediated increases in fat oxidation, and we recommend that endurance athletes should avoid high intensity training while fasting"
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#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
> A related study found that those who ate later burned less energy than those who ate earlier. Big question on this one: Was it testing the same people, or was it observational / correlation-seeking? Because I can imagine people who burn less energy in general eat later because they're not hungry, rather than the other way around.
Energy expenditure does not predict eating schedules.
Do you have a source for that?
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#29Pretty junky article, because it doesn't define the goal, and therefore cannot give any recommendations either. Is the goal weight loss? Is the goal sleep quality? Is the goal how to maximize muscle protein synthesis (and add weight)? When it comes to weight loss (and when the right muscle sparing tools are in place, also fat loss) total Calories in vs Calories out dominates. Don't get fooled, both sides of the equat…
https://youtube.com/watch?v=i-hCUkAsbpU&t=24
A bit informal but gets the gist across: eating outside of a 12 hour period (which begins at the first meal of the day) causes increased fat uptake, lowers insulin sensitivity, and your muscle starts to waste.
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#30I sleep much better if I stop eating after 5 pm.
One of the Keto-Doctors on youtube suggested that you can still eat gouda cheese if you feel seriously hungry, but should avoid sugar and carbs.
If I'm in the mood I drink kefir before bed, a certain kind seems to give me slapstick zombie dreams. If I have cream cheese with a certain gut-flora supplement, I might have space-dreams, where I fly space-crafts.