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When should you eat is just as important as what you eat

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Re: When should you eat is just as important as what you eat

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Pretty junky article, because it doesn't define the goal, and therefore cannot give any recommendations either. Is the goal weight loss? Is the goal sleep quality? Is the goal how to maximize muscle protein synthesis (and add weight)? When it comes to weight loss (and when the right muscle sparing tools are in place, also fat loss) total Calories in vs Calories out dominates. Don't get fooled, both sides of the equat…

I've never heard that caffeine prevents the clearing of adenosine receptors, a quick google didn't show anything with that side affect, do you have a particular citation? I'd definitely change coffee consumption habits if that is the case.

Isn't that literally how caffeine works?

Re: When should you eat is just as important as what you eat

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Pretty junky article, because it doesn't define the goal, and therefore cannot give any recommendations either. Is the goal weight loss? Is the goal sleep quality? Is the goal how to maximize muscle protein synthesis (and add weight)? When it comes to weight loss (and when the right muscle sparing tools are in place, also fat loss) total Calories in vs Calories out dominates. Don't get fooled, both sides of the equat…

I've never heard that caffeine prevents the clearing of adenosine receptors, a quick google didn't show anything with that side affect, do you have a particular citation? I'd definitely change coffee consumption habits if that is the case.

You'll find a lot of references if you use a search engine to search for “caffeine and adenosine”. Here's the first result from my search: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20164566/

Re: When should you eat is just as important as what you eat

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've never heard that caffeine prevents the clearing of adenosine receptors, a quick google didn't show anything with that side affect, do you have a particular citation? I'd definitely change coffee consumption habits if that is the case.

Isn't that literally how caffeine works?

More specifically I would say that's how caffeine tolerance works.

Re: When should you eat is just as important as what you eat

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Pretty junky article, because it doesn't define the goal, and therefore cannot give any recommendations either. Is the goal weight loss? Is the goal sleep quality? Is the goal how to maximize muscle protein synthesis (and add weight)? When it comes to weight loss (and when the right muscle sparing tools are in place, also fat loss) total Calories in vs Calories out dominates. Don't get fooled, both sides of the equat…

I've never heard that caffeine prevents the clearing of adenosine receptors, a quick google didn't show anything with that side affect, do you have a particular citation? I'd definitely change coffee consumption habits if that is the case.

Personally, I learned this from Dr. Andrew Huberman…

https://podclips.com/c/why-andrew-huberman-avoids-caffeine-f...

https://www.reddit.com/r/AdvancedFitness/comments/qaq6z4/dr_...

Sources should be in the show notes of the corresponding podcast episodes.

Anecdotally: I can tell the difference.

Re: When should you eat is just as important as what you eat

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I sleep much better if I stop eating after 5 pm. One of the Keto-Doctors on youtube suggested that you can still eat gouda cheese if you feel seriously hungry, but should avoid sugar and carbs. If I'm in the mood I drink kefir before bed, a certain kind seems to give me slapstick zombie dreams. If I have cream cheese with a certain gut-flora supplement, I might have space-dreams, where I fly space-crafts.

Exactly. Eating an early dinner is a huge advantage for a healthy sleep.

Re: When should you eat is just as important as what you eat

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> When should you eat is just as important as what you eat And they don't tell us when to eat either. It's just another article about "there is a correlation in mice" and continue with a bunch of truisms for good measure.

There is a general sense of earlier is better: > Research is starting to show the same effects in humans. One study on weight loss that compared the times of eating among participants over a 20-week period revealed that those who ate lunch earlier lost more weight than those who ate it later. A related study found that those who ate later burned less energy than those who ate earlier.

Did that study have full control over the participant’s diets? If they’re allowed to self report a lunch time or eat freely then it could easily be down to differing snacking habits based on when they last ate.

Re: When should you eat is just as important as what you eat

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I sleep much better if I stop eating after 5 pm. One of the Keto-Doctors on youtube suggested that you can still eat gouda cheese if you feel seriously hungry, but should avoid sugar and carbs. If I'm in the mood I drink kefir before bed, a certain kind seems to give me slapstick zombie dreams. If I have cream cheese with a certain gut-flora supplement, I might have space-dreams, where I fly space-crafts.

Exactly. Eating an early dinner is a huge advantage for a healthy sleep.

As for me, I can't fall asleep if I eat too early dinner. Food makes me sleepy so I have dinner quite late to avoid rolling over my bed for hours.

Re: When should you eat is just as important as what you eat

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post #29

Pretty junky article, because it doesn't define the goal, and therefore cannot give any recommendations either. Is the goal weight loss? Is the goal sleep quality? Is the goal how to maximize muscle protein synthesis (and add weight)? When it comes to weight loss (and when the right muscle sparing tools are in place, also fat loss) total Calories in vs Calories out dominates. Don't get fooled, both sides of the equat…

https://youtube.com/watch?v=i-hCUkAsbpU&t=24 A bit informal but gets the gist across: eating outside of a 12 hour period (which begins at the first meal of the day) causes increased fat uptake, lowers insulin sensitivity, and your muscle starts to waste.

We have plenty of studies about this from body building. What you eat is orders of magnitude more important than when you eat. So while you can measure effects of timing and they are real, they are insignificant to most but the top competition level where 1% can make a difference.

Re: When should you eat is just as important as what you eat

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The article is paywalled. Even if (and I haven't read the article) the explanatory power of mean outcomes is equal between diet content and diet timing, it's absurd to think that the worst-case timing (as long as one isn't starving) is as bad as the worst-case content (again, as long as one isn't starving or eating objective poisons). Having an average daily American intake all in one go right before bed or spread ou…

There is an archive.org link higher up in the thread
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