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Re: Tell HN: GitHub is partially blocked in India

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The Indian judiciary is independent, much to the chagrin of the BJP whenever rulings go against them. A court-ordered block has little if anything to do with the BJP.

Can't the BJP assign new judges that flavor them? Authoritarian governments othen do that, like the one in Hong Kong.

No, the judiciary have their own internal elections.

Re: Tell HN: GitHub is partially blocked in India

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post #139
post #129

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The Indian judiciary is independent, much to the chagrin of the BJP whenever rulings go against them. A court-ordered block has little if anything to do with the BJP.

Can't the BJP assign new judges that flavor them? Authoritarian governments othen do that, like the one in Hong Kong.

Nope. Existing judges decide who gets selected to fill vacant seats: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Judges_Cases

Re: Tell HN: GitHub is partially blocked in India

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You bypassing the block remedies the situation for you. The thing is, not everyone is a super techy like you. The problem is everyone else who isn't you having access restored. While F you, got mine is tempting, you gotta remember the follow through. Always punch up.

Why do you assume those who know how to bypass the block won't share it? Contrary to your expectations, people don't exist as isolated entities in vacuum.

You're assuming that even if the method of bypassing it is widely available everyone can figure it out or has access to help

Re: Tell HN: GitHub is partially blocked in India

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Why do you assume those who know how to bypass the block won't share it? Contrary to your expectations, people don't exist as isolated entities in vacuum.

You're assuming that even if the method of bypassing it is widely available everyone can figure it out or has access to help

Bypassing authoritarian control measures isn't mutually exclusive with social activism. Your entire premise was false to begin with.

Re: Tell HN: GitHub is partially blocked in India

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How about standing up to the people who implemented the ban and their supporters. I don't understand why we are working around oppression.

What would be your favorite way of standing up to the people who implemented the ban and their supporters?

Punishing them financially through boycotts, cutting off friends and family, voting them out, and terminating their employment.

Whatever can be done obviously

Re: Tell HN: GitHub is partially blocked in India

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OP claims it’s SNI based and not DNS based, so switching DNS providers likely won’t do anything.

> OP claims it's SNI based and not DNS based, so switching DNS providers likely won’t do anything. All the apps listed do get past most rudimentary SNI-based blocks, incl GoodbyeDPI which is pretty sophisticated. One still needs DoH because (unencrypted) DNS is the weakest link.

Then that's not SNI-based blocking.

Re: Tell HN: GitHub is partially blocked in India

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Pointing to cloudflare dns circumvents the issue for now. move away from ISP DNS to 1.1.1.1 to temporarily solve the issue.

Some ISPs still tamper with DNS traffic irrespective of which DNS server they're to/from. githubusercontent.com has no DNSSEC, so it's not tamperproof.

Through what mechanism is it possible for them do bypass custom DNS servers? Does DNS over other protocols prevent this tampering?

Re: Tell HN: GitHub is partially blocked in India

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The fact that people rely on GitHub, even when it is based on git, which is free and distributed software, shows how easy it is for big companies to force users into their closed software.

I don’t use GitHub because it provides me with just Git. I use it because it’s provides hosted storage, free CI, issue management, code search across millions of repos, releases/downloads.

That's the reason I use it too but in my opinion, their technical ability to blanket censor content while offering little to no recourse completely justifies hosting important things elsewhere. At the end of the day, the amazing value-adds they provide only contribute to vendor lock-in and drastically increase switching cost.

I've had a project shut down by Github because of petty ( and unfounded ) content flagging by a competitor. It took a week to get a human involved and it almost killed the project. I will never again put the fate of a product in the hands of someone else's arbitrary, black-box algorithms.

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