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Re: Tell HN: GitHub is partially blocked in India

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SourceHut, Notabug, Codeberg, etc. are free in both money and liberty, unlike GitHub.

How are you being oppressed by a SaaS offering that charges you nothing and uses a standard protocol (git)?

It uses your code in a paid closed-source service (Copilot), and creates vendor lock-in using proprietary features like GitHub Actions. Not to mention that it's quite absurd for the majority of free software projects to be hosted on a proprietary platform.

Re: Tell HN: GitHub is partially blocked in India

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uff. I cant even imagine what loosing github would mean to an economy and hope you will be back on track soon.

I doubt it would mean much, you don't even need to self-host git just use gitlab, bitbucket, etc. Hobbyists and small projects would be the most affected but VPN's are a trivial solution for this demographic.

The code you need to read, the bugs you need to file and the downloads you need to make from every other project will still be on GitHub. I don’t use GitHub for issues or version control at work, but I’d be significantly slowed down without it.

Re: Tell HN: GitHub is partially blocked in India

#113

The fact that people rely on GitHub, even when it is based on git, which is free and distributed software, shows how easy it is for big companies to force users into their closed software.

I don’t use GitHub because it provides me with just Git. I use it because it’s provides hosted storage, free CI, issue management, code search across millions of repos, releases/downloads.

Re: Tell HN: GitHub is partially blocked in India

#114
post #93

Indian here. This seems to be blown a bit out of proportion. I am residing in a Tier-1 city in India and have an internet connection with a local ISP. I am able to access the content on the supposed blocked domain, so this is probably one ISP proactively blocking the domain without it being formally asked to do so (court order can't be ISP-specific AFAIK). I work in a large consultancy firm and have friends in other…

What do you mean blown out of proportion? OP has mentioned that it's a partial block and shared a source showing multiple people facing the same issue.

> What do you mean blown out of proportion?

It is on the HN front page :)

Re: Tell HN: GitHub is partially blocked in India

#116

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Your instructions would only apply to a dead repo. Migrating an active repo is going to require coordination, dry runs, validation, and planning coupled with updates across your integrations. If you rewrite any history, all bets are off. You're also not taking into account any cleanup activities like reflog expire, or gc prune. I would also argue that moving to a self hosted remote is going to have significant admini…

> updates across your integrations That's already vendor lock in - you're using GitHub's CI pipeline? You're locked.

If I have to update my Jenkins server because I moved from one Git provider to another, I have to point my existing integrations to my new git provider. That's the opposite of being locked in, and just a fact of the matter.

Re: Tell HN: GitHub is partially blocked in India

#117

Indian here. This seems to be blown a bit out of proportion. I am residing in a Tier-1 city in India and have an internet connection with a local ISP. I am able to access the content on the supposed blocked domain, so this is probably one ISP proactively blocking the domain without it being formally asked to do so (court order can't be ISP-specific AFAIK). I work in a large consultancy firm and have friends in other…

Works for me, no repro, not an issue, right? The post specifically mentions which one ISP is doing the blocking. If you're not using them, then it likely wouldn't affect you... until your ISP also starts following the order. If anything, your comment is trying to heavily downplay what is happening.

If other ISPs start following the same, you are right in saying I'm downplaying the situation.

But I also mentioned it is unlikely to happen since all major IT Consultancy firms in the country rely on GitHub for their work in one way or another. And not just with their code but also with their client's code.

Re: Tell HN: GitHub is partially blocked in India

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By bypassing the block you lessen the need for social activism

Bypassing the block renders the authoritarian control measures ineffective and/or void. This is an act of resistance in itself. Why do you think bypassing the ban is conforming to authority?

You bypassing the block remedies the situation for you. The thing is, not everyone is a super techy like you. The problem is everyone else who isn't you having access restored.

While F you, got mine is tempting, you gotta remember the follow through. Always punch up.

Re: Tell HN: GitHub is partially blocked in India

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Here in China the GFW block any traffic with encrypted SNI.

Hence the "no fallback" point. Bad guys can always block entire IPs, and by not having a fallback to insecure SNI, that's their only choice.

Doesn't that mean that places like AWS will be fighting ECH, then? Right now, evil governments can block sites based on their domain; so if irrelevant-aws-customer.com does something controversial, super-important-customer-also-on-aws.com can still receive traffic. If evil governments lose this ability and irrelevant-aws-customer.com needs to be blocked, then they just block all of AWS, forcing super-important-customer-also-on-aws.com to move to Azure or GCP. As a result, I imagine that big cloud providers to whine loudly about this, unless they have some other plan. (I also think we should ignore their whining, but the #1 browser is made by the #3 cloud provider, so I have my doubts. What hurts AWS hurts GCP, probably.)

Re: Tell HN: GitHub is partially blocked in India

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I doubt it would mean much, you don't even need to self-host git just use gitlab, bitbucket, etc. Hobbyists and small projects would be the most affected but VPN's are a trivial solution for this demographic.

The code you need to read, the bugs you need to file and the downloads you need to make from every other project will still be on GitHub. I don’t use GitHub for issues or version control at work, but I’d be significantly slowed down without it.

All those things can be painlessly done with a vpn. I'm not saying people wouldn't have to change, but to affect the economy as gp is trying to make it sound well, doubt it would even make a rounding error.
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