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Re: Tell HN: GitHub is partially blocked in India

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Re: Tell HN: GitHub is partially blocked in India

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For folks looking to bypass these rudimentary DPI blocks, you don't really need a VPN. DoH + one of these should be enough On Windows: - GoodbyeDPI: https://github.com/ValdikSS/GoodbyeDPI ( https://ntc.party/c/community-software/goodbyedpi/8 ) On Mac / Linux: - GreenTunnel: https://github.com/SadeghHayeri/GreenTunnel ( https://www.npmjs.com/package/green-tunnel ) On Android: - Intra: https://github.com/jigsaw-code/in…

How about standing up to the people who implemented the ban and their supporters. I don't understand why we are working around oppression.

What would be your favorite way of standing up to the people who implemented the ban and their supporters?

Re: Tell HN: GitHub is partially blocked in India

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For folks looking to bypass these rudimentary DPI blocks, you don't really need a VPN. DoH + one of these should be enough On Windows: - GoodbyeDPI: https://github.com/ValdikSS/GoodbyeDPI ( https://ntc.party/c/community-software/goodbyedpi/8 ) On Mac / Linux: - GreenTunnel: https://github.com/SadeghHayeri/GreenTunnel ( https://www.npmjs.com/package/green-tunnel ) On Android: - Intra: https://github.com/jigsaw-code/in…

How about standing up to the people who implemented the ban and their supporters. I don't understand why we are working around oppression.

...I'll guess you've never been hit by an indian policeman with a stick? And they don't wear bodycams. My point being: your words are empty if you're not actualky there. Just imagine what happened pre-body cam (USA/ UK etc) and multiply that by many, throw in a LOT of judicial corruption and 'standing up to' becomes a little more difficult than it would at first appear. Circumnavigation may be the best option at the moment.

Re: Tell HN: GitHub is partially blocked in India

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By bypassing the block you lessen the need for social activism

This is called "accelerationism". It does not work. It is a maladaptive thought-pattern, nursed by people on the political fringe. The theory is that as things get worse and worse, there will come a moment when everyone suddenly "wakes up", and acts in unity to overthrow their oppressors and build a better system (under the command of the enlightened few, of course). This happens approximately never (see: Qanon), and…

> This happens approximately never (see: Qanon), and when it does, the chances of a good result are even more remote (see: Bolshevism).

I would also count Russia in the current war into the "never bucket". Many expected them to overthrow the dictatorship, but the internal situation only became worse since 2022. If anything as more people leave, system becomes more homogenous and even more supportive of current status quo.

Re: Tell HN: GitHub is partially blocked in India

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I'm not a big fan of jargon either, but if you clicked on one of those links, you'd see that it stands for DNS over HTTP or DNS over Tor.

Not sure what you mean, I clicked on the first link before commenting, for "GoodbyeDPI", and learned that it was a "Deep Packet Inspection circumvention utility (for Windows)", I still didn't know what DoT or DoH was, sorry. Most Android phones... have DNS over Tor... built in? This can't be, can it? I'm pretty confused.

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Re: Tell HN: GitHub is partially blocked in India

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The best thing to do is to create a national git service and make copies of the important git repos, to avoid this problem.

At best that severs collaboration between India and the rest of the world when github isn't blocked. And who would get to define "important"? Switch that word out with "approved" and you'd have a more accurate picture of what would be present. One of the benefits (or perhaps "ideals" would be a better word) of open source is that all of it is available to everyone with no authority deciding who can access it.

> it is available to everyone with no authority deciding who can access it

So why are you using a Microsoft product, where Microsoft decides where and when the service will be available?

Re: Tell HN: GitHub is partially blocked in India

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It seems to bother you, I don't have any issues with people using code I put into the public domain which I why I use the unlicense. GitHub Actions is YAML based, and the reason most people use a SCM provider like Github or GitLab is because they have superior collaboration and auditing features. At the end of the day no one forces you to use a public repo(copilot) or GitHub Actions. If I use Jenkins am I any less lo…

> I don't have any issues with people using code I put into the public domain which I why I use the unlicense. Good for you. I use the GNU GPL, so I do have a problem with my code being used for proprietary software. > they have superior collaboration and auditing features What exactly makes GitHub/GitLab better in this aspect than other alternatives? > If I use Jenkins am I any less locked in? I don't know anything…

Yeah, the only people benefitting from the GPL IMHO are lawyers and I'm unwilling to hoist an oppressive license onto my users. Personally, I don't think it's really open source if you're going to make me jump through licensing hoops, and if the hoops are tiny in your opinion, why have them at all? I want people to use my code, I put in the public for consumption, not for the accolades or legal battles... but that's just me.

SaaS means I don't have to manage it. I can also in theory collaborate with millions of people versus closed systems like Gitea or Gogs which is what two of the providers you mentioned are built atop. Interestingly enough, both of those projects use GitHub to build GitHub alternatives. What's good for the goose is good for the gander?

You could easily use repository dispatch with GitHub Actions on self-hosted runners (free) to perform builds on repos that live in other places, since the interface is basically a webhook/payload. The question is why would you? What is the benefit? All of them are using GitOps style practices for the build process, some of them just happen to be a little closer. I'll take YAML over Java/Groovy shared libraries any day of the week. I'd argue that Actions is better than most CI systems.

Re: Tell HN: GitHub is partially blocked in India

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The Indian judiciary is independent, much to the chagrin of the BJP whenever rulings go against them. A court-ordered block has little if anything to do with the BJP.

Can't the BJP assign new judges that flavor them?

Authoritarian governments othen do that, like the one in Hong Kong.

Re: Tell HN: GitHub is partially blocked in India

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Bypassing the block renders the authoritarian control measures ineffective and/or void. This is an act of resistance in itself. Why do you think bypassing the ban is conforming to authority?

You bypassing the block remedies the situation for you. The thing is, not everyone is a super techy like you. The problem is everyone else who isn't you having access restored. While F you, got mine is tempting, you gotta remember the follow through. Always punch up.

Why do you assume those who know how to bypass the block won't share it? Contrary to your expectations, people don't exist as isolated entities in vacuum.
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