How many layers of UI inconsistencies are in Windows 11?

Post by chinabot » Mon, Jan 02, 2023, 6:33 PM UTC

alentred wrote: post #30

To be fair, I think some examples, and specifically those from 95/NT and then 3.1 times, are too far-fetched. I agree that consistency is important, but it doesn't mean that every screen needs to be redesigned altogether. For instance, I don't think that examples of Screen Saver Settings or File Properties are relevant, as long as their styling is in line with the rest of the OS. One thing that surprises me a lot, th…

Post by frosted-flakes » Mon, Jan 02, 2023, 6:36 PM UTC

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gizmo385 wrote: post #248

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> o need to pay some UI designers big bucks to come up with rounded corners). It’s really unfortunate how dismissive of the entire ui design profession so much of HN is. Not a great look IMO

Would you please care to point to something ACTUALLY useful to end users that came out of the W11 UI "redesign"? Because you cannot legitimately look at the W11 task manager and tell me it was designed with any sort of professional UI/UX in mind. It's busy work to keep a job. And if it is then there's something deeply wrong where no UX theory is being applied, or they're being overruled to make it "app-y".

Post by sombragris » Mon, Jan 02, 2023, 6:39 PM UTC

whywhywhywhy wrote: post #160

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I agree, but I do want to point out that some of these "not updated" things are still heavily used and offer a bad user experience. For example the Services (or any mmc based) UI with no filter/search integrated is absurd. Heck they just "redesigned" Task Manager and none of the tabs have filter/search functionality which is annoying to say the least. I suppose you can start typing with the inner tab having focus, an…

Task Manager not having a modern filter/search for the gigantic list isn’t only an annoyance and a productivity killer but also a security issue. If I suspect a nefarious app is running in the background somewhere I have to manually read the list to find it and kill it. End of the day one of two things is happening, either no one influential at MS uses Windows or their structure is so broken that pointing out somethi…

Post by pram » Mon, Jan 02, 2023, 6:41 PM UTC

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I'm pretty sure you don't even have to unplug network to install Win10 without Microsoft account - just during the installation you don't create one (or login to existing one)

Exactly. Since a few years now, and as many Windows 10 versions, the disconnection trick is not needed anymore. They still unemphasize the offline profile option (with the usual dark pattern of making a button not look like a button, and to word it as something negative you sure wouldn't want), and nag you twice if you find it, but it's there, hidden in plain sight: you just need to pay attention.

Post by doodlesdev » Mon, Jan 02, 2023, 6:42 PM UTC

Arainach wrote: post #278

herbst wrote: post #113

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Linux user here as well. The thing that upsets me with windows in the inconsistency in the OS not the applications. Take Fedora, Manjaro or Ubuntu with any major flavour like Gnome or KDE and you get a very consistent way of how your OS works and responds to common tasks. It's kinda easy for non experienced user to find the right settings with no UI change on a modern Linux Desktop.

Linux does this by breaking things wholesale. Any Gnome extensions etc. need constant maintenance or they break in between versions, while Windows provides binary compatibility and doesn't even require recompiling.