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Re: Ask HN: How do you work on your mental health?

#91
Every damn day I try to be mindful of my state of mind.

I will exercise, do breathing exercises, talk through things, write, make arrangements to sleep more the following night, or just call it a day before it even really starts. Sometimes I don’t have the luxury to end early or run, but I will then try to do a little meta reflection about the situation and assess what needs improvement and or can be done on the spot to cope.

Re: Ask HN: How do you work on your mental health?

#92

First off, I would caution anyone about doing positive affirmations, or even forced journaling exercises (e.g. gratitude journaling). These exercises are incongruent with how one see's oneself; people who are already grateful or have health self-esteem don't need to do these exercises, and those don't have them and are trying to force it on themselves only see it as a lie (subconsciously). You can't really lie to you…

I respectfully but wholeheartedly disagree with your “caution” against gratitude journaling.

Saying that people who are already grateful don’t need to do this is like saying that people who are already fit don’t need to exercise.

People who aren’t fit can do exercise to get fitter, people who are already fit can do exercise to maintain that fitness. I think the same goes for being grateful and practicing gratitude.

Re: Ask HN: How do you work on your mental health?

#93
I've recently realized that my mind is made up of multiple unconscious minds that work together in hierarchies with various priorities. These minds are constantly sending conflicting decisions to my conscious mind in an effort to help me survive and reproduce. It can be frustrating because occasionally I want to be productive, but other times I just want to relax and watch TV. I've found that the best way to manage this is to acknowledge and give voice to all of these unconscious minds, rather than ignoring or suppressing them. Creating a schedule that aligns with my different priorities and capabilities can help me to balance the conflicting desires of my unconscious minds.

AFAIK Buddishm offers another way and promises that eventually these minds simply disappear, but it essentially means that the sense of "me" vanishes. It's very difficult to achieve it, though.

Re: Ask HN: How do you work on your mental health?

#94
Every day I..

1. Run

2. Think about my death

3. Try to eat only food grown in the ground.

I am not alone in doing [2], in fact I found out its a national tradition in Bhutan: https://medium.com/the-ascent/in-bhutan-people-think-about-d... - it sounds strange and I am not I recommending it to everyone, but it's totally changed my mindset on life and dissolved my depression and anxiety. I find when I focus my thoughts on the fact that I will die, and I have no idea when that will be, I feel a profound deep feeling of gratitude. The small trivial things don't matter anymore.

Two the biggest dysfunctions we have in western society are worship of youth and an irrational fear of death, to the point we don't feel comfortable to speak about it. We would rather pretend it does not exist and happens to other people.

Re: Ask HN: How do you work on your mental health?

#95
There's a lot of people mentioning the usual of exercise, sleep, journalling, diet, relationships etc and they are absolutely correct. I would like to mention one thing that I seem to becoming more aware of as I get older and that is the perception of choice. It may just be me/my personality type but I feel like the number one thing that causes my mood to get dragged down nowadays is when I feel like I don't have a choice on a matter. I think this is why being in debt is so mentally crushing because, unless you're willing to risk bankruptcy, your ability to say no to things you don't want to do and take risks is massively compromised.

If you're able, stop doing things you don't want to do. If you hate your job, quit and find one you like, start your own business, or drop your hours and find a way to live with less. If you don't like whatever your exercise routine is, find something physical you do like doing (Winston Churchill used to walk and do bricklaying. Chuck Palahniuk has also taken to building field stone structures as a form of exercise). Obviously you should maintain discipline when undertaking difficult things, but try and identify situations in your life where you feel you don't have a choice and drilling down into whether that really is the case and taking all the steps you can to get your freedom back.

Re: Ask HN: How do you work on your mental health?

#96
I try to change “scenery” in a way that lets my mind wander.

As a background, I am a software engineer, firefighter, have had tons of grief (in my emergency role, as well as personal life), moderately manage ADHD, and am prone to “thought spirals.”

When the shingles come back, you know it’s been a bad few months.

So - rather than leave work in software to game or such, I paint. Oil paint. My own or masterwork copies. I get lost in art history. I “let” the spiral happen when it needs to happen.

I know I should also exercise more. We all should.

But mostly - painting, crochet, jigsaw puzzles, wood working, my therapist, learning abt philosophy, and pretending to exercise all seem to keep me going.

But I won’t lie. There are improvements to be made. Entire months where a belief that if I walk off the face of the earth, I will let those around me down … sometimes is all that keeps me going. My biggest triggers are money (i dont have much) and what others “must” think of me.

Iterate. Note what worked. What didn’t and note that you woke up today so there is something that worked. Even if it was “stayed in bed and played minecraft all day.”

Re: Ask HN: How do you work on your mental health?

#98
post #78

First, the physical: sleep well, eat well, practice sports Second, the surroundings: analyse your immediate surroundings, and what/who is causing stress. Toxic friends, too much alcohol, etc. Third: find a higher peace-bringing meaning. Wether it is a goal, or friendship/love, or even religion. Also: work on redundancy of your mental health. Have your 3 pillars of strength in a healthy state: work, belonging (love/fr…

All good advice. I especially agree with the first line as a solid foundation. As long as you don't sleep well, forget the rest. And as long as you don't exercise regularly, the regular sleep will be much harder.

One thing I'd add though is: A tidy mind. Clean up your thoughts. If there is something you don't understand or that seems inconsistent, seek understanding instead of just ignoring it. Of course you need some tradeoff, but too many people just live with constant chaos in their heads and BS-tting they way through life. By extension, your surroundings shape your thoughts. A somewhat tidied up apartment, clean kitchen sink and bathroom/toilet, fridge, desk, hard disk, inbox, those things work wonders. Doesn't have to be spotless, but chaos just distracts and creates overhead that can make you miserable.

(Obviously, some chaos sparks creativity, but there is a difference it a big box with assorted "creative" items versus not finding things on your desk because of all the crap on it.)

Re: Ask HN: How do you work on your mental health?

#99
post #78

First, the physical: sleep well, eat well, practice sports Second, the surroundings: analyse your immediate surroundings, and what/who is causing stress. Toxic friends, too much alcohol, etc. Third: find a higher peace-bringing meaning. Wether it is a goal, or friendship/love, or even religion. Also: work on redundancy of your mental health. Have your 3 pillars of strength in a healthy state: work, belonging (love/fr…

> Also: work on redundancy of your mental health.

Wow, great idea that I've never really thought about. Right now I am mostly work with a little bit of hobby and relationships and you're absolutely right that problems at work can give a disproportionate bit of mental anguish. Thanks a ton for that insight!

Re: Ask HN: How do you work on your mental health?

#100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sadly it's really difficult to do all three well :(

How so? lack of motivation? lack of time?

When you're really depressed, it's a spiral that is hard to break from. Sometimes it is almost impossible to do something like exercise. Eating can be a retreat for a moment so often you eat what you shouldn't as well.
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