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How many layers of UI inconsistencies are in Windows 11?

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Re: How many layers of UI inconsistencies are in Windows 11?

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They also hide some of the most useful options while keeping the most useless. Rename is now one of the ones hidden by default.

It actually isn’t, but I wouldn’t blame you for thinking it was. It’s now an icon of a text cursor and a tiny text box.

This is why buttons should always have text.

Re: How many layers of UI inconsistencies are in Windows 11?

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post #211

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It's not just looks, there are real features missing from the new control panel activities too, and I don't look forward to the day the old ones are removed. For example, to disable a network adapter, you have to go into the Vista/7 version of Network settings so you can right click it and get the context menu. It's a mess!

ncpa.cpl forever baby

I work as a “contractor” and when I sit down to work with some sysadmin they watch me and ask out I bring up the old style config windows. One of them had started a sheet while watching me with all the run commands and helper phrases (North Carolina PennsylvAnia).

Run commands are great for me, but it sucks when I have to walk someone through something over the phone. It’s gotten to the point where I can’t walk people through the gui methods anymore and it’s actually easier to explain how to open a run prompt and type xyz

Re: How many layers of UI inconsistencies are in Windows 11?

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What does this have to do with GNOME?

Ubuntu defaults to GNOME for its desktop environment?

What does that have to do with Ubuntu updates breaking things? If a tornado hits McDonalds while you're in it are you going to say you hate McDonald's for not being tornado proof?

Re: How many layers of UI inconsistencies are in Windows 11?

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The single most "oh, Microsoft " moment I had when updating to Windows 11 is actually glossed over in this article without comment. Context menus are restyled, and also now have a "show more options" entry[1] -- if you press it, what happens? The pre-Windows-11 context menu appears. That's right. There's archeological layers of UI design in context menus now. [1] https://ntdotdev.files.wordpress.com/2022/12/image-4.p…

They also hide some of the most useful options while keeping the most useless. Rename is now one of the ones hidden by default.

well, having the copy as path available by default is an improvement, but that context menu is still a step back

Re: How many layers of UI inconsistencies are in Windows 11?

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post #221

The single most "oh, Microsoft " moment I had when updating to Windows 11 is actually glossed over in this article without comment. Context menus are restyled, and also now have a "show more options" entry[1] -- if you press it, what happens? The pre-Windows-11 context menu appears. That's right. There's archeological layers of UI design in context menus now. [1] https://ntdotdev.files.wordpress.com/2022/12/image-4.p…

They also hide some of the most useful options while keeping the most useless. Rename is now one of the ones hidden by default.

"rename" use to be F2, not sure if that's still the case nowadays

Re: How many layers of UI inconsistencies are in Windows 11?

#246

Windows file version history is an interesting example of UI inconsistent AND being broken as a result. It has been removed from settings (was in Win 10), but still exists in the control panel (where you can't configure folders to be included in file version history).

I had no idea it even had that feature. File revision ought to a basic OS function and basic computer skill. One drive and Dropbox kind of give it to you. MacOS does it (you can save named revisions in addition to Time Machine working pretty well) but it’s not become a well-known feature for some reason. On the other hand these features may cause pain if they aren’t something that will survive copy operations, OS upd…

Version control is superfluous for simple stuff since you can just have:

Report.doc, report1.doc, report11.doc, reportfinal.doc, reportfinal2.doc

Re: How many layers of UI inconsistencies are in Windows 11?

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post #211

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ncpa.cpl forever baby

I work as a “contractor” and when I sit down to work with some sysadmin they watch me and ask out I bring up the old style config windows. One of them had started a sheet while watching me with all the run commands and helper phrases (North Carolina PennsylvAnia). Run commands are great for me, but it sucks when I have to walk someone through something over the phone. It’s gotten to the point where I can’t walk peopl…

I have been doing this my entire career. IMO its always been much easier to tell someone to hold the Win key and press R and enter a short command than it is to guide them through the UI to whatever setting needs interacting with, especially over the phone.

Re: How many layers of UI inconsistencies are in Windows 11?

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Funny how the more the screenshots go back in history, the more 'useful' the UI looks like (even though they no longer adhere to the current fashion fad - which should actually be handled through a user-accessible themeing engine, no need to pay some UI designers big bucks to come up with rounded corners). For instance right in the first Task Manager screenshot, I have no clue what those tab icons on the left side ac…

> o need to pay some UI designers big bucks to come up with rounded corners).

It’s really unfortunate how dismissive of the entire ui design profession so much of HN is. Not a great look IMO

Re: How many layers of UI inconsistencies are in Windows 11?

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I use Linux on my desktop most of the time. Recently I've been dual-booting into Windows 10. Whenever I run Windows my HDD usage spikes to 100% until I turn off "real-time virus protection". Does anyone know if this feature still exists in Windows 11, and if it is less buggy on W11?

I'm sure there is some registry voodoo I could do to turn this off on every reboot - so far Googling the magic keys and trying them has not worked unfortunately.

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