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Posters of the IPv4 and IPv6 internet as of Jan 1, 2023

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Re: Posters of the IPv4 and IPv6 internet as of Jan 1, 2023

#41
post #2

Serious question: why would I want to purchase this as a poster? Asking as a nerd, but maybe not a very specific data oriented nerd.

Don't really understand the purpose of this question. If you want it, you want it. If you don't, you don't.

Re: Posters of the IPv4 and IPv6 internet as of Jan 1, 2023

#42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is the benefit to the ISP in supporting IPv6 to justify the extra cost of the support?

Some devices coming out now from Google, etc. are IPv6-only and do not support 6rd tunnels at all. Possible further benefit, reaching India and China who certainly aren't issuing IPv4. Hopefully the day comes when people can get static IPv6 addresses instead of a dynamic one behind an ISP NAT.

>Some devices coming out now from Google, etc. are IPv6-only and do not support 6rd tunnels at all.

I find this very, very hard to believe. I haven't found anything online. Can you give me some pointers?

>Possible further benefit, reaching India and China who certainly aren't issuing IPv4.

All Indian and Chinese websites have ipv4 addresses in case I wanted to reach them.

I think people should come to terms to the fact that everybody is moving to cgnat and the world is not falling apart as they said it would.

Re: Posters of the IPv4 and IPv6 internet as of Jan 1, 2023

#44
post #5

In considering the rollout of IPv6, end users often get marginalized. This is frustrating to me. When we try to highlight ISPs who refuse to deploy IPv6, mobile services get highlighted - as if homes and businesses could just use them instead of wireline. If that doesn't end the discussion then IPv6 acolytes will go on about transit traffic or anything else until IPv4-only users go away and stop ruining their optimis…

> Personally, I'm very positive about IPv6. I find a lot to like in the protocol Please expand on this (besides ‘wow such large numbers’…). I’ll take my answer off the air.

The best thing is autoconfiguration, of course.

It not evident if you are an admin of localhost, but working with hundreds devices make you really appreciate it.

This is the whole config what allows the device to talk to IPv6 and provide IPv6 addresses to the clients in the vlan3003. No DHCP, no ip helpers, nothing.

    interface Vlan2999
     ipv6 address 2000:1111:1:1::2/126
    !
    interface Vlan3003
     ipv6 address 2000:1111:1:4::1/64
    !
    ip forward-protocol nd
    !
    ipv6 route ::/0 2000:1111:1:1::1
> in case anyone is wondering why IPv6 is where it’s at after a decade

But.. I'm tired to juggle this nonsense. We have /21, a couple of /24 and a bunch of /28. I recently decided to move out our services from /21 and /24 to some specific /28 and despite what all those /28 are pretty close (most of them sits in one /23) I can't have a few laconic network rules with aggregates for separating our own and customers traffic. I would need to have a whole let of rules, almost for each /28.

Re: Posters of the IPv4 and IPv6 internet as of Jan 1, 2023

#45

Really surprised no one has yet posted the software that’s almost certainly used to create these images, the Measurement Factory’s ipv4-heatmap package, on GitHub here: https://github.com/measurement-factory/ipv4-heatmap And, yes, it was absolutely inspired by Randall Munroe’s xkcd Map of the Internet, which someone has already linked. There’s a fork that uses ColorBrewer palettes, which may be what they actually use…

Because it was already mentioned in TFA.

Re: Posters of the IPv4 and IPv6 internet as of Jan 1, 2023

#46
post #6

Why does Ford still have an entire /8 (and even worse, completely unused)?

Why does McDonald’s own so much prime real estate? Kind of a misguided question imo.

Because they're a real estate company, disguised as a fast food chain. Ford on the other hand isn't an internet company, but their IPv4 range represent and actual value on their balance sheets.

Realistically, Ford may also have use their IP range in a kinda of haphazardly way, simply because they never had a shortage or had to deal with multiple public range. So cleaning up their network, to be able to free any number of IPs would be a lot of work, at a high cost, with no real benefit for the company. Sure they could sell the surplus IPs, but they aren't that strapped for cash.

Re: Posters of the IPv4 and IPv6 internet as of Jan 1, 2023

#47
IPv6 only is still unusuable :( I bought new Sony TV and allocated it a new VLAN with IPv6 only network just to see how it works TV couldn't even detect that it connected to the internet, despite it receiving ipv6 address from my router. It looks like it couldn't use IPv6 DNS servers. If I try to configure IP address statically it wont let me enter IPv6 address at all.

Re: Posters of the IPv4 and IPv6 internet as of Jan 1, 2023

#48

The ghostly amount of v6 space is so exciting to see. One day we’ll need to physically route a whole block to another planet — there’s no point using BGP when the ping from Earth to Mercury is 230,000ms at best. I love IPv6 and it’s so exciting to see it used widely at last. My mobile device is v6 although it’s still dual stack. Home networks are doomed to by v4 forever so your 1990s eToaster can display Yahoo! News!…

My ISP to this day still doesn't have dual-stack. It makes a 6rd tunnel available to their users as a "beta" (for years). I find it mystifying to be honest. I know for a fact they have a nice modern facility and an expert head sysadmin. They even have a local fiber optic network. It makes no sense to me that they're clinging so tightly to IPv4.

It just works and IPv6 solves no problems while bringing many more. If address space was a problem, we d have switched when mobile phone started doubling the number of devices: but they can all have the same IP per tower and use NAT ...

Re: Posters of the IPv4 and IPv6 internet as of Jan 1, 2023

#49

In considering the rollout of IPv6, end users often get marginalized. This is frustrating to me. When we try to highlight ISPs who refuse to deploy IPv6, mobile services get highlighted - as if homes and businesses could just use them instead of wireline. If that doesn't end the discussion then IPv6 acolytes will go on about transit traffic or anything else until IPv4-only users go away and stop ruining their optimis…

But there is like gazillion tunneling etc options for people whose isp doesn't provide IPv6; I don't think it's fair to accuse the IPv6 community for ignoring people with ISPs that do not provide IPv6 connectivity when there is so much work put into making viable adaptation paths for them. What more could the community do?
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