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Epstein's sex trafficking was aided by JPMorgan, US Virgin Islands lawsuit says

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Re: Epstein's sex trafficking was aided by JPMorgan, US Virgin Islands lawsuit says

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Ghislaine Maxwell is the daughter of Robert Maxwell, who was a suspected Mossad spy. Per Wikipedia: > The Foreign Office suspected that Maxwell was a secret agent of a foreign government, possibly a double agent or a triple agent, and "a thoroughly bad character and almost certainly financed by Russia". He had known links to the British Secret Intelligence Service (MI6), to the Soviet KGB, and to the Israeli intellig…

Ok but how does that make his doughter a super spy?

Espionage, like all significant industries, relies heavily on one’s personal contacts. In the spy game, reputation and trust are much harder to build, given the necessary lack of transparency on all sides.

For this reason, espionage has often been something of a family business — the children meet the contacts of the parent, and thereby essentially inherit the store.

Re: Epstein's sex trafficking was aided by JPMorgan, US Virgin Islands lawsuit says

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> Is there a legitimate reason so few people have been charged in the case of Epstein? Given the probably reluctance of most victims to come forward, active concealment by (apparently) multiple large banks (Deutsche Bank was sued and settled with New York, and now JP Morgan by USVI), investigators getting proof beyond a reasonable doubt even if there aren’t powerful people with law enforcement connections with an int…

there is a tangible disinterest in prosecuting this --as well as most-- sex crimes in the united states. In many US states, rape kits used as pivotal evidence during trial are backlogged and processed at a near glacial rate or lost entirely. Bill Cosby and Harvey Weinstein are examples of a situation where power in the united states, combined with a longstanding puritanical distaste for sex, culminated in a decades l…

We (the US) love to blame the victims. Full stop.

I do support the idea that someone accused of a crime needs to be proven guilty beyond the shadow of a doubt. The nature of these crimes often results in a he said/she said scenario where the crime can't be easily proven. Only in these scenarios where the dam breaks and dozens of accusers come forth do these predators receive justice.

Re: Epstein's sex trafficking was aided by JPMorgan, US Virgin Islands lawsuit says

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I wonder how many more people we don't know about have been killed to keep this mess contained.

Ghislaine's peculiarly friendly and apologizing comments about accused rapist and former U.S President Bill Clinton suggests who she suspects may be behind some of it. Coincidentally there's frequently talk about how several of his past associates seem to have been shot and killed.

Re: Epstein's sex trafficking was aided by JPMorgan, US Virgin Islands lawsuit says

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They do work like that. My house was raided as part of an investigation. It was about two years after the search that the DOJ indicted me for conspiracy to commit copyright infringement..

Interesting! Would you mind elaborating?

there's nothing to elaborate. his story is one of millions of examples where regular people are treated harsher by the law than rich and powerful.

Re: Epstein's sex trafficking was aided by JPMorgan, US Virgin Islands lawsuit says

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There's literally a black book with names in it, as well as flight records. There is plenty of evidence here to get started on a charge without the banks or victims cooperating.

In the United States there has to be evidence of a specific crime. Being an associate of a scumbag isn’t illegal, nor is having taken a flight.

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Re: Epstein's sex trafficking was aided by JPMorgan, US Virgin Islands lawsuit says

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There's literally a black book with names in it, as well as flight records. There is plenty of evidence here to get started on a charge without the banks or victims cooperating.

You have to remember that Federal investigations don't work like that. They don't arrest (even if it appears obvious) and then build evidence; they build a strong case quietly then arrest (look up Prenda Law for a good story on this). Interestingly though, most of the time public or powerful figures go to jail it's not (or not mainly) for the crime assumed, it's for 'Lying to the Feds' (see Martha Stewart for example…

Having dealt with “shoot first, ask questions later” asset forfeiture cases, in my own life and some of my friends’, I have to say this is more of an idealistic view post Wars on Drugs and Terror.

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I don’t understand how Ghauline got charged with underage child prostitution but none of her clients did. Who did she traffick them to? Makes me think politicians at the very highest level like Prince Andrew in the UK and a bunch in the US. It’s funny that the sketches for the Madeline McCann kidnappers look an awful lot like the Podesta brothers - the same ones with the creepy nude art of children in their homes. Al…

> Makes me think politicians at the very highest level like Prince Andrew in the UK and a bunch in the US.

Prince Andrew was not a political creature though.

His influence was built on other peoples money and access to power afaict. He had the right phone numbers to set up meetings between interested parties.

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There's literally a black book with names in it, as well as flight records. There is plenty of evidence here to get started on a charge without the banks or victims cooperating.

You have to remember that Federal investigations don't work like that. They don't arrest (even if it appears obvious) and then build evidence; they build a strong case quietly then arrest (look up Prenda Law for a good story on this). Interestingly though, most of the time public or powerful figures go to jail it's not (or not mainly) for the crime assumed, it's for 'Lying to the Feds' (see Martha Stewart for example…

A lot of the time the feds deliberately try and trap you into lying to them, either so they at least get something, or so they can use it as leverage to get you to inform on someone else.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ghislaine Maxwell is the daughter of Robert Maxwell, who was a suspected Mossad spy. Per Wikipedia: > The Foreign Office suspected that Maxwell was a secret agent of a foreign government, possibly a double agent or a triple agent, and "a thoroughly bad character and almost certainly financed by Russia". He had known links to the British Secret Intelligence Service (MI6), to the Soviet KGB, and to the Israeli intellig…

Ok but how does that make his doughter a super spy?

Nepo baby.

Re: Epstein's sex trafficking was aided by JPMorgan, US Virgin Islands lawsuit says

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Is there a legitimate reason so few people have been charged in the case of Epstein?

Of course it was JPMorgan, what other "institution" fits better ?? It should be disbanded decades ago...

> Is there a legitimate reason so few people have been charged in the case of Epstein?

I bet reason is: ten years didn't pass yet. Wait, no... It's actually a reason of all that...

But there is much more we can learn from that story.

Victims: https://www.npr.org/2021/07/20/1017968999/jeffrey-epsteins-v...

Ghislaine the Coaxer: https://www.npr.org/2021/12/29/1066219689/ghislaine-maxwell-...

Looks Epstein house wasn't a sex-or-no-heroine-for-ya mafia shop. Girls was lured there - "they had a playbook" - with promises of opportunities and bunch of good heart faking. And shopping sprees. By someone out of the blue suddenly throwing money...

Still, as I read somewhere, similiar to mafia where trafficking is often mafia's woman job.

Girls was also choosed - troubles in family or [attr humanity=off] System [attr] experience...

Looks like total top-down fackup - from politicians to minor kids. Nothing much differen form what was[1] happening for thousend of years before. But now we trying to not accept this anymore.

So:

- first, nothing can replace good family with parents dedicated for life to their childrens

- we need to do something with kids wanting or maybe needeing money... Steam skins for cents is just extracted essence of that. Why minors started to needs money so much ? That is civilizational problem.

Also some % of mionors "sex marked" is just that - minors wants money... Spare me usual idiotic fact denial on that and show me a way to avoid that.

- we need good after hours care for kids. Not only official schools but but after hours too. DO NOT MAKE IT MANDATORY IN ANY CASE, school is enough of that.

Boy Scouts was good attempt, worked or is working for century now. But predators infiltrate it.

- and here is main problem: a) predators "volunteere", b) no one notice (maybe) and then c) they take over institution. There was "private tutors" in England - kids moved to teachers homes. Yes, personal education is better then public, but gues what ? There was systematic abuses ! Is it when and why anti-homosexualinsts law passed in England (or it was from earlier) ?

There is a clear pattern: pedophiles destroy educational systems. That they destroy lifes for life is already known and all over the media and spy industry and legislation too with potential of destroing results. Yea, f* education, right ?

- we do need official method of requiring and teaching more and more responsibility from kids - so they could be self sustained adults. Old ways of that was destroyed by changes in lifestyle (which are not bad in itself (except megacities - that need to be stopped))

- we need to learn to be not rich - especially public servants, military, priests, teachers and academia LOL. Not poor - it guarantee coruption in "services". Made it official: You want to be rich ? Get out of public service ! Of course negative way is not a way, we need good reasons to stay in. Maybe by striving to do art or nice things at least. For now anything remotely nice is "premium" and "premium" is for stupid peoples - there is no such value as "premium" ! There is just quality, effort and resources.

Just keep watching for parasites as phedophiles in kids related organizations and appropriately to the organization purpose, eg. health or education or environment or IT controlling agencies - meltdowns of the last decades is... in same scale as Babel tower building effort.

Also as society we need get over that "be rich" lure. Just build homes for everyone and then more and then give them as gifts. Problem moustly solved ! Maybe. I read yesterday JPMorgan volunteered for that, right ? Just build and cede ownership rights.

Make them easily repairable for 2 centuries and keep building publicly owned or very cheaply available replacements for what's damaged. Yes, very cheaply available quality houses. It's quite a time for new goverment responsibilities. That's different from setting rules for others.

- there should be scientific research about "gentlemans" - must be rich and 4 generations needed to create true gentleman ? Looks like pre-scientific observation. But looks like some level of financial independence do psychological change in life - you gain some peace when you do not need to be in constant panic for lack of food and shelter with money as proxy of that. Also this is usually achieved via education. And not without training in some ethic...

Possible in XIX we can do better then 4 generations...

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