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Re: Tell HN: Google Cloud lets anyone add you to a project without your permission

#91

I never had a good time with google Support ( not just gcp) One time I sent a trade in device which usps confirmed as delivered to google , google store said that it was just an empty box and no phone was inside … After fighting tooth and nail , I lost the case with google support because I didn’t film Myself putting the phone inside the box , only to notice few months later that the phone did reach in and they credi…

Next time just charge them back with your credit card

Just realize that’s the end of your google relationship. Same with steam, Sony etc. some pretty horrific stories of people losing access to everything- email, fi phone service, google play services on their phone.

Plenty of these stories:

https://www.reddit.com/r/tifu/comments/zndbku/tifu_by_accide...

I’ve heard people following this advice really regret it because they don’t realize how much ties to google. Please make sure folks you are advising understand this.

Re: Tell HN: Google Cloud lets anyone add you to a project without your permission

#92
Facebook groups used to have this issue. A bunch of us at university got in trouble after being added to an inappropriate group without permission, and trying to explain to admin that we didn't actually join by choice was a nightmare. In that case at least we could have left if we had been paying attention.

Re: Tell HN: Google Cloud lets anyone add you to a project without your permission

#94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe your confounding "large company" with monopoly or duopoly? Can you give examples of large companies with more than 1 competitor who get away with treating customers badly in the long run?

Depends on your definition of monopoly I guess. AT&T, Amazon, Comcast, Google, Paypal, Exxon, Microsoft, Philip Morris, DuPont, Facebook, Monsanto, Electronic Arts, and United Airlines are all very much hated and there are "alternatives" and "competitors" enough that they aren't illegal monopolies under our current and admittedly broken laws (although some of them have been in trouble previously)

Some of those are not hated by their “customers” to be fair - but a decent number are. And the vast majority of people don’t have “much issue” so they keep plugging along.

Re: Tell HN: Google Cloud lets anyone add you to a project without your permission

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post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe your confounding "large company" with monopoly or duopoly? Can you give examples of large companies with more than 1 competitor who get away with treating customers badly in the long run?

Google cloud is a distant third in the cloud space. So claiming they are a monopoly is frankly pretty ridiculous.

I think we agree then don't we?

Google Cloud has competition, people dislike them because of their lack of support, thus they are a distant third and likely NOT getting away with it in the long run?

Re: Tell HN: Google Cloud lets anyone add you to a project without your permission

#96
I think you can invite anyone, and you can assign them permissions but I don't think it actually shows up in your account unless you click an email from GCP containing an invite. I definitely remember adding other "domains" required invitations. (Maybe gmail to gmail doesn't.)

Re: Tell HN: Google Cloud lets anyone add you to a project without your permission

#97

I never had a good time with google Support ( not just gcp) One time I sent a trade in device which usps confirmed as delivered to google , google store said that it was just an empty box and no phone was inside … After fighting tooth and nail , I lost the case with google support because I didn’t film Myself putting the phone inside the box , only to notice few months later that the phone did reach in and they credi…

Next time just charge them back with your credit card

There was a recent thread here about how chargebacks generally cause companies to delete your accounts and deny you access forever without any way to appeal.

Re: Tell HN: Google Cloud lets anyone add you to a project without your permission

#98

If a GCP project hosted child porn. And the project admin added you as a co-owner to said project. Would you be legally be at fault or implicated?

No, because thank goodness the law is not executed by automatons, it is a system of humans with human brains.

But Google will still hellban you and imply you're a pedophile even if you're exonerated.

https://www.theverge.com/2022/8/21/23315513/google-photos-cs...

Re: Tell HN: Google Cloud lets anyone add you to a project without your permission

#100
post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google cloud is a distant third in the cloud space. So claiming they are a monopoly is frankly pretty ridiculous.

I think we agree then don't we? Google Cloud has competition, people dislike them because of their lack of support, thus they are a distant third and likely NOT getting away with it in the long run?

Bravo, you've built the perfect circular argument.
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