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Freenet build 1495: new user experience and performance

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Re: Freenet build 1495: new user experience and performance

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sandworm101 wrote: post #17
einpoklum wrote: post #10

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> We dont yet life in the police state where everyone's political opinions need to be hidden in dark networks. You may not, but many of us actually do. Naturally not every political opinion, and it depends on how you express it, but still. > At the moment, freenet has a bad reputation for hosting very illegal content. Why is that a bad reputation? Isn't that part of the point? ... Perhaps you mean unsavory, or immora…

I said illegal and meant exactly that. Morality and societal norms are debates for twitter and facebook. Tor/freenet/i2p are at another level of seriousness. Freenet has a rep for child abuse imagery.

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Re: Freenet build 1495: new user experience and performance

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Post by einpoklum »

sandworm101 wrote: post #17
einpoklum wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> We dont yet life in the police state where everyone's political opinions need to be hidden in dark networks. You may not, but many of us actually do. Naturally not every political opinion, and it depends on how you express it, but still. > At the moment, freenet has a bad reputation for hosting very illegal content. Why is that a bad reputation? Isn't that part of the point? ... Perhaps you mean unsavory, or immora…

I said illegal and meant exactly that. Morality and societal norms are debates for twitter and facebook. Tor/freenet/i2p are at another level of seriousness. Freenet has a rep for child abuse imagery.

> Freenet has a rep for child abuse imagery.

If I connect to Freenet, will I be offered images of abused children? ... I would assume the answer is no.

Well, child abuse is one of the top excuses for governments to demand to be able to spy on everyone.

Once we've seen a complete ban on government use of violence because it sometimes kills innocent people, then talk to me about how private communications is problematic because people use it for child porn.

Re: Freenet build 1495: new user experience and performance

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Post by prmoustache »

mikrotikker wrote: post #60
jackmott wrote: post #34

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Texas will take your children from you if they get a report that they are transexual

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Hmmm, not if they have reached age of consent which vary greatly between countries and possibly states and only if they perform said act. One kid/teenager could identify itself as hetero/bi/homo/whateversexual for example without having had sexual intercourses.

Also I haven't seen parents being jailed in the countries I have lived in because their teenager were having sex regardless of the age of consent (excluding cases where said parents were actually involved in the act).

Re: Freenet build 1495: new user experience and performance

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Post by qzx_pierri »

sandworm101 wrote: post #6

Freenet is well designed and well maintained, but it is a solution looking for a problem. We dont yet life in the police state where everyone's political opinions need to be hidden in dark networks. At the moment, freenet has a bad reputation for hosting very illegal content. That rep is so bad that if authorities ever look into your internet traffic, freenet connections are more than enough to get warrants that will…

We’d rather have it and not need it at the moment, versus needing it at the moment and not having it. In other words, persistent development at this early stage is about being proactive.

Re: Freenet build 1495: new user experience and performance

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Post by matheusmoreira »

sandworm101 wrote: post #6

Freenet is well designed and well maintained, but it is a solution looking for a problem. We dont yet life in the police state where everyone's political opinions need to be hidden in dark networks. At the moment, freenet has a bad reputation for hosting very illegal content. That rep is so bad that if authorities ever look into your internet traffic, freenet connections are more than enough to get warrants that will…

> We dont yet life in the police state where everyone's political opinions need to be hidden in dark networks.

Maybe you don't. I expect my country will turn into such a state mere days from now. A communist president will assume power next year and I have no doubt he will regulate the press and the internet to extents I didn't think possible. There's also a judiciary dictatorship installed with supreme court judges openly persecuting right wing political parties. Tools like these will be absolutely vital for anyone exercising political or intellectual freedom.

Re: Freenet build 1495: new user experience and performance

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Post by matheusmoreira »

Tor3 wrote: post #67
sandworm101 wrote: post #22

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That is what Tor is for. If all you need is protection from authorities, Tor is enough. Freenet is content-focused, designed so that not even the original uploader can ever remove popular content. Tor protects people and speech from the police. Freenet protects files from everybody.

Well.. Tor can create trouble for you as well, or at least it did for me. I used to sometimes go through Tor to visit competitors' websites when I used my work computer, just because I didn't want to leave a trail of my company's domain in the competitor's logs. That was quite innocent I thought. Then my sysadmin informed me that the national security monitor (or whatever it was called), which my company was connecte…

> national security monitor

What is this? Are governments mandating that corporations install government monitoring modules in their networks?

Re: Freenet build 1495: new user experience and performance

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Post by notacoward »

sanity31415 wrote: post #42
notacoward wrote: post #14

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Having been in that space at the time, I think this point is not arguable at all. Freenet was not the first decentralized file sharing system. Freenet might have been the subject of a PhD thesis in 1999, but by the time it became even slightly usable Napster and Gnutella already had substantial user bases. (Similar to Ceph BTW which had a long gap between being a PhD thesis and being an actual usable distributed file…

Napster wasn't decentralized, it relied on a centralized index which is why it was shut down. Gnutella relied on a broadcast search which didn't scale. Freenet's use of small world routing to be both decentralized and scalable was unique, as was it's use of cryptographic contracts (signed subspace keys). That paper isn't the original Freenet paper, it came later. This is the original: https://www.semanticscholar.org/…

Flagged as a (rather obvious) dup account to get around what appears to be a shadowbanned s4n1ty who had just made the exact same comment.

Re: Freenet build 1495: new user experience and performance

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Post by darthrupert »

nix23 wrote: post #66
mikrotikker wrote: post #62

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100m dead people agree with you.

Stalin and Mao had nothing in common with communism they just called it "communism" (or more precise Stalinism/Maoism...the difference here is really important), please read Marx. BTW: I don't say it's a perfect system but worth a look, and maybe one could mix both systems together.

When all practical realizations of a political ideology end up as being oppressive one party states, perhaps there's something wrong with the ideology.

Then again, seeing the current state of "market-based" Russia, I'm giving more credence to the idea that it was not communism than ruined Russia, but vice versa. They seem to have that effect on many things.

Re: Freenet build 1495: new user experience and performance

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Post by LocalH »

darthrupert wrote: post #69
lakomen wrote: post #57

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You've never experienced communism. So stop talking out your ass. I'd take it over this abomination that we have now any time. Vietnam. Cheap life, good life, friendly people. None of this "I'll try to screw you over and steal your money, because money is all that interests me" You have no idea.

We don't have to experience everything personally, because we have written an oral histories. I assure you, I have a pretty good idea.

Written and oral histories are fallible
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