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Freenet build 1495: new user experience and performance

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Re: Freenet build 1495: new user experience and performance

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Last year, I interviewed Ian Clarke, who started arguably the first decentralized file sharing system: freenet!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWrRqUkJpMQ

The interview -- like most of my interviews -- goes into depth about the entire space, and also touches on Locutus, his new project.

PS: I like to interview people on topics related to what we build at Qbix and Intercoin.

Freedom of Speech and Capitalism (with Noam Chomsky) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gv5mI6ClPGc

Identity and Civic Engagement (with David Boulet) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRzVj2W9WGM

Free Cities (Patri Friedman, grandson of Milton Friedman) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lgil1M9tAXU

Community Economics (Thomas Greco) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXTn52kL0Yo

Crypto and Securities Laws (Sara Hanks) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocrqgkJn4m0

Re: Freenet build 1495: new user experience and performance

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Last year, I interviewed Ian Clarke, who started arguably the first decentralized file sharing system: freenet! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWrRqUkJpMQ The interview -- like most of my interviews -- goes into depth about the entire space, and also touches on Locutus, his new project. PS: I like to interview people on topics related to what we build at Qbix and Intercoin. Freedom of Speech and Capitalism (with Noa…

Really cool stuff, thank you for this!

Re: Freenet build 1495: new user experience and performance

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post #2

Last year, I interviewed Ian Clarke, who started arguably the first decentralized file sharing system: freenet! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWrRqUkJpMQ The interview -- like most of my interviews -- goes into depth about the entire space, and also touches on Locutus, his new project. PS: I like to interview people on topics related to what we build at Qbix and Intercoin. Freedom of Speech and Capitalism (with Noa…

Freenet has a different concept than MaidSAFE: While MaidSAFE (as it was when I last looked into it — a few years ago) is a hosting and application platform, the focus of Freenet is to be the technical component for censorship resistance. Everything it provides comes from this — even the recently added video and Android support (because Black Lives Matter showed clearly that the information that people need to share the most is video content nowadays).

Therefore the overarching design goal of freenet is to make censorship as hard as technically possible. That’s the reason for - providing anonymity (else you could be threatened with repercussions - as seen in the case of the wikileaks informer from the army in the USA), - building it as free software network (else you could just shut down the central website, as people tried with wikileaks), - providing safe pseudonyms and caching of the content on all participating nodes (else people could censor by spamming or overloading nodes), - including good moderation tools (otherwise people could censor by just "flooding the zone with shit"), and even - the darknet mode and enhancements in usability (else freenet could be stopped by just prosecuting everyone who uses it, or it would reach too few people to be able to counter censorship in the clearnet).

One core difference between MaidSAFE is that Freenet provides communication. Content in Freenet stays accessible while people access it, without tracking accesses: When you upload something, you can imagine that a clock starts ticking. After a while (depending on file size) the content is no longer accessible. But if someone accesses it, their node "heals" that content, which resets that clock.

Also Freenet enables people to connect purely to their friends, so there’s no central point of failure or detection.

I once did a comparison to other projects for a funding proposal (that did not succeed, though) which should still give you an idea about the difference between Freenet and other systems: http://www.draketo.de/proj/freenet-funding/#sec-9

Re: Freenet build 1495: new user experience and performance

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Freenet is well designed and well maintained, but it is a solution looking for a problem. We dont yet life in the police state where everyone's political opinions need to be hidden in dark networks. At the moment, freenet has a bad reputation for hosting very illegal content. That rep is so bad that if authorities ever look into your internet traffic, freenet connections are more than enough to get warrants that will rip your life apart. Imho, running freenet is like commuting to work on a sportbike. It is perfectly legal (i used to do it) but dont be suprised if the cops pay closer attention to you. Except those "random" license checks by the roadside arent nearly as embarrassing as them inspecting your computers.

Re: Freenet build 1495: new user experience and performance

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Freenet is well designed and well maintained, but it is a solution looking for a problem. We dont yet life in the police state where everyone's political opinions need to be hidden in dark networks. At the moment, freenet has a bad reputation for hosting very illegal content. That rep is so bad that if authorities ever look into your internet traffic, freenet connections are more than enough to get warrants that will…

Just having a Freenet connection does not get a warrant — though there are researchers who use some fishy statistics which may be reason not to run a very fast node in the US (because running a fast node provably causes false positives in their statistics).

For some more details, see https://freenetproject.org/the-discredited-levine-2017-appro... and the links therein.

Re: Freenet build 1495: new user experience and performance

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post #7

Freenet is well designed and well maintained, but it is a solution looking for a problem. We dont yet life in the police state where everyone's political opinions need to be hidden in dark networks. At the moment, freenet has a bad reputation for hosting very illegal content. That rep is so bad that if authorities ever look into your internet traffic, freenet connections are more than enough to get warrants that will…

Just having a Freenet connection does not get a warrant — though there are researchers who use some fishy statistics which may be reason not to run a very fast node in the US (because running a fast node provably causes false positives in their statistics). For some more details, see https://freenetproject.org/the-discredited-levine-2017-appro... and the links therein.

I think you might underestimate how easy it is to get a search warrant, paticularly in the US. This isnt the standard for arrest, let alone conviction. A cop saying "the machine regularly connected to a suspect network" is more than enough for many judges/magistrates... most of which dont know an IP from an IPA.

(Lol, got over v underestimate mixed up.)

Re: Freenet build 1495: new user experience and performance

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Freenet is well designed and well maintained, but it is a solution looking for a problem. We dont yet life in the police state where everyone's political opinions need to be hidden in dark networks. At the moment, freenet has a bad reputation for hosting very illegal content. That rep is so bad that if authorities ever look into your internet traffic, freenet connections are more than enough to get warrants that will…

>"We dont yet life in the police state where everyone's political opinions need to be hidden in dark networks"

The next statement below totally contradict the first one above.

>"hat rep is so bad that if authorities ever look into your internet traffic, freenet connections are more than enough to get warrants that will rip your life apart."

If mere internet traffic will "rip your life apart" - that is a police state in my book.

Re: Freenet build 1495: new user experience and performance

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Freenet is well designed and well maintained, but it is a solution looking for a problem. We dont yet life in the police state where everyone's political opinions need to be hidden in dark networks. At the moment, freenet has a bad reputation for hosting very illegal content. That rep is so bad that if authorities ever look into your internet traffic, freenet connections are more than enough to get warrants that will…

> We dont yet life in the police state where everyone's political opinions need to be hidden in dark networks.

You may not, but many of us actually do. Naturally not every political opinion, and it depends on how you express it, but still.

> At the moment, freenet has a bad reputation for hosting very illegal content.

Why is that a bad reputation? Isn't that part of the point? ... Perhaps you mean unsavory, or immoral, or socially detrimental.

> but dont be suprised if the cops pay closer attention to you

Now that is a significant point in its disfavor, yes.

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