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Freenet build 1495: new user experience and performance

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Re: Freenet build 1495: new user experience and performance

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Freenet is well designed and well maintained, but it is a solution looking for a problem. We dont yet life in the police state where everyone's political opinions need to be hidden in dark networks. At the moment, freenet has a bad reputation for hosting very illegal content. That rep is so bad that if authorities ever look into your internet traffic, freenet connections are more than enough to get warrants that will…

> We dont yet life in the police state where everyone's political opinions need to be hidden in dark networks. Millions of people are in places where acknowledging that they want abortions[1] or miscarried[2] can pique the state's interest, along with people who are trans[3] or have trans kids[4]. We have police using web searches to prosecute women for abortion[1], we have states compiling lists of transgender indiv…

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Re: Freenet build 1495: new user experience and performance

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Freenet is well designed and well maintained, but it is a solution looking for a problem. We dont yet life in the police state where everyone's political opinions need to be hidden in dark networks. At the moment, freenet has a bad reputation for hosting very illegal content. That rep is so bad that if authorities ever look into your internet traffic, freenet connections are more than enough to get warrants that will…

> We dont yet life in the police state where everyone's political opinions need to be hidden in dark networks. Millions of people are in places where acknowledging that they want abortions[1] or miscarried[2] can pique the state's interest, along with people who are trans[3] or have trans kids[4]. We have police using web searches to prosecute women for abortion[1], we have states compiling lists of transgender indiv…

That is what Tor is for. If all you need is protection from authorities, Tor is enough. Freenet is content-focused, designed so that not even the original uploader can ever remove popular content. Tor protects people and speech from the police. Freenet protects files from everybody.

Re: Freenet build 1495: new user experience and performance

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> We dont yet life in the police state where everyone's political opinions need to be hidden in dark networks. You may not, but many of us actually do. Naturally not every political opinion, and it depends on how you express it, but still. > At the moment, freenet has a bad reputation for hosting very illegal content. Why is that a bad reputation? Isn't that part of the point? ... Perhaps you mean unsavory, or immora…

Freenet is known for child abuse content, a topic so sensitive and disturbing people don’t want to even refer to it directly.

These days you have to go actively searching to find such on Freenet. And as journalists proved multiple times¹, if you do go searching, you’ll find a lot more of it in the clearnet via forums accessible with Tor than in Freenet.

And for the highest security in Freenet (the friend-to-friend mode), you need to have friends whom you trust not to go to lengths to spy on you — friends would be able to run statistical attacks if you transmit large amounts of known content. And such trusted friends are what people who want to access child abuse content do not have.

¹: Example (in German): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iItLpwkQMUQ

Re: Freenet build 1495: new user experience and performance

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> We dont yet life in the police state where everyone's political opinions need to be hidden in dark networks. Millions of people are in places where acknowledging that they want abortions[1] or miscarried[2] can pique the state's interest, along with people who are trans[3] or have trans kids[4]. We have police using web searches to prosecute women for abortion[1], we have states compiling lists of transgender indiv…

That is what Tor is for. If all you need is protection from authorities, Tor is enough. Freenet is content-focused, designed so that not even the original uploader can ever remove popular content. Tor protects people and speech from the police. Freenet protects files from everybody.

That’s not quite true.

Freenet protects communication — content in flow. Somewhat larger files that are not accessed automatically disappear from Freenet after a short while.

Tor protects your connection to another computer.

The stated usecases are excellent examples for usage of Freenet: information for transgender people or about abortions. Even accessing such information can get you in danger nowadays.

And a site accessed via Tor can more easily be compromised (to get your identity by tracking information from your OS or similar) or taken down (so the information is gone).

Re: Freenet build 1495: new user experience and performance

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> We dont yet life in the police state where everyone's political opinions need to be hidden in dark networks. Millions of people are in places where acknowledging that they want abortions[1] or miscarried[2] can pique the state's interest, along with people who are trans[3] or have trans kids[4]. We have police using web searches to prosecute women for abortion[1], we have states compiling lists of transgender indiv…

That is what Tor is for. If all you need is protection from authorities, Tor is enough. Freenet is content-focused, designed so that not even the original uploader can ever remove popular content. Tor protects people and speech from the police. Freenet protects files from everybody.

Plenty of pertinent information exists as documents, like lists of abortion providers or how/where to get hormone replacement therapy, etc. Freenet can be used for such content and would save a person from having related search queries and sites in their normal web history/traffic that can later be used against them.

Re: Freenet build 1495: new user experience and performance

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> We dont yet life in the police state where everyone's political opinions need to be hidden in dark networks. Millions of people are in places where acknowledging that they want abortions[1] or miscarried[2] can pique the state's interest, along with people who are trans[3] or have trans kids[4]. We have police using web searches to prosecute women for abortion[1], we have states compiling lists of transgender indiv…

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Re: Freenet build 1495: new user experience and performance

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Last year, I interviewed Ian Clarke, who started arguably the first decentralized file sharing system: freenet! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWrRqUkJpMQ The interview -- like most of my interviews -- goes into depth about the entire space, and also touches on Locutus, his new project. PS: I like to interview people on topics related to what we build at Qbix and Intercoin. Freedom of Speech and Capitalism (with Noa…

Great content, by the way.

Re: Freenet build 1495: new user experience and performance

#29

Sorry I’m not tech savvy! How is this different from Tor?

In a nutshell: Tor is communication, while Freenet is storage (with some communication as a matter of necessity). Folks like me might quibble about whether Freenet is reliable storage or something more like caching, but the key point is that data exists in Freenet at rest for retrieval later.

Re: Freenet build 1495: new user experience and performance

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Just having a Freenet connection does not get a warrant — though there are researchers who use some fishy statistics which may be reason not to run a very fast node in the US (because running a fast node provably causes false positives in their statistics). For some more details, see https://freenetproject.org/the-discredited-levine-2017-appro... and the links therein.

I think you might underestimate how easy it is to get a search warrant, paticularly in the US. This isnt the standard for arrest, let alone conviction. A cop saying "the machine regularly connected to a suspect network" is more than enough for many judges/magistrates... most of which dont know an IP from an IPA. (Lol, got over v underestimate mixed up.)

Kyle Rittenhouse trial, the lawyer pinch zooming on an photo gallery on an iPhone and arguing its legit is all you need to know
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