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What happens when babies are left to cry it out?

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Re: What happens when babies are left to cry it out?

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This is a simplistic potshot. If you go to your baby every time it cries that could mean a lot of work, so much it ruins your own rest/health/sanity and makes you a worse parent at the times the baby isn’t crying.

A defenseless child wants nothing more than to sleep next to their parent. Everyone sleeps better.

>Everyone sleeps better.

This is an absolute that is not true. Many people, even you, may - great! Others may not.

Re: What happens when babies are left to cry it out?

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Didn't sleep train and now our 9yo expects to come to our bed every damned night. Big regret.

A former manager remarked to me one day that my one year old twins slept better than his 8 year old son. We've sleep trained all 3 of our children and I can't imagine our lives otherwise. I think we'd just manage to survive if they didn't sleep well and on their own.

Re: What happens when babies are left to cry it out?

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I'm more interested in the long-term psychological effects of sleep training and how it affects a child's perception of "secure attachment" [1]. We sleep trained our oldest and did not our youngest and their personalities couldn't be more different. Of course, this may be entirely unrelated, but it's still something my wife and I have wondered about as we've learned more about it. [1] https://www.betterhelp.com/advic…

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Re: What happens when babies are left to cry it out?

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A defenseless child wants nothing more than to sleep next to their parent. Everyone sleeps better.

They also want a steady stream of cookies and iPad games and to be able to climb on high dangerous objects but maybe we shouldn’t indulge every want of a child.

Giving an infant a feeling of safety when they’re too small to comprehend their environment is not indulgence.

Re: What happens when babies are left to cry it out?

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A defenseless child wants nothing more than to sleep next to their parent. Everyone sleeps better.

Unless the baby gets caught in the covers or rolled upon during the night. Every approach likely has some pros and cons, so barring randomized and reproduced trials I take all claims as unproven.

Yes if you’re obese or inebriated then you shouldn’t sleep next to a baby, but in those cases you’re better off abstaining from food and drink for your own sake anyway.

Re: What happens when babies are left to cry it out?

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post #71

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A defenseless child wants nothing more than to sleep next to their parent. Everyone sleeps better.

>Everyone sleeps better. This is an absolute that is not true. Many people, even you, may - great! Others may not.

Fair—I was being too extreme.

Re: What happens when babies are left to cry it out?

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Co-sleeping has much more of a basis in human history. The challenge is transitioning.

And SIDS.

Co-sleeping and SIDS data is highly mangled.

I will not trust medicine on this. It's just too vague and enough babies have been killed because "sleeping face down is better".

If one of the strongest parental instinct is sleeping with your baby, I'll trust mother nature this time.

Sorry, I'm particularly bitter about this. We have been pushed away from Co-sleeping due to poor education and when we did, we got from 2 hours of sleep per week to 8 hours per day, and a lot more cuddles.

Re: What happens when babies are left to cry it out?

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I'm more interested in the long-term psychological effects of sleep training and how it affects a child's perception of "secure attachment" [1]. We sleep trained our oldest and did not our youngest and their personalities couldn't be more different. Of course, this may be entirely unrelated, but it's still something my wife and I have wondered about as we've learned more about it. [1] https://www.betterhelp.com/advic…

Even cats have wildly different personalities so I don't think sleep training human babies have anything to do with their personalities.

Did you sleep train the cats?

Re: What happens when babies are left to cry it out?

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Co-sleeping has much more of a basis in human history. The challenge is transitioning.

My wife and I co-sleep with our kids (2 & 4). I get just about a full sleep every night. If the kids wake up I imagine it's much less work to roll over and cuddle with them as opposed to getting out of bed, going to a separate room and then comforting them. Co-sleeping gets bonus points for giving me just a little extra sweet time with my kids, because before I know it they will be older and wanting their own space.…

Same age for my children and same recommendation.

I actually sleep about 9 hours per night, after which I naturally wake up.

I would also recommend going to bed at the same time as the children. Painful from one perspective, but always rested in the morning.

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