Hey, you folks who are willing to pay to be part of a vetted community? Looks like Sam Altman’s WorldCoin, which is about verifiable identity, might just become a viable business. ChatGPT’s role in that strategy makes more sense now.. remember Altman is behind OpenAI? If this is part of his strategy to monopolize internet comments, then his next step is to have ChatGPT recognize its own outputs. (To deal with those WorldCoiners who abuse ChatGPT, for example.)
AI: Markets for Lemons, and the Great Logging Off
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Re: AI: Markets for Lemons, and the Great Logging Off
#32The idea raised in this article is interesting. However, if the technology on the side of the spam producers improves, platforms will follow and improve their technology for recognizing spam. So, yes, there might be some temporary lemons failures on some platforms, but I would not expect a big logging off to happen on the long-run. After all I think this is a cat-and-mouse game of superior technology in producing / i…
> platforms will follow and improve their technology for recognizing spam
Written language has patterns, and your response and mine also follow these patterns. Language models like GPT-3 and ChatGPT can learn these patterns because there are finite ways in which humans write text. ChatGPT responses are easy to recognize because it was fine-tuned with specific data to meet chatbot requirements and provide Q&A style responses. In the near future, these language models will be fine-tuned for specific purposes, such as spam, and will mimic human text patterns in a way that will not be distinguishable from real humans.
Re: AI: Markets for Lemons, and the Great Logging Off
#33This article gets it. ChatGPT heralds the end of free user comments, forums and social media. Because when everything and everyone online is fake, why even log on to Insta or FB or Twitter? The internet will still be useful, but Web 2.0 will go the way of the dodo unless it adapts and the easiest way to cut down on spam is to charge users money for access. Spam campaigns are a lot less lucrative when it costs money t…
Will something like the precursor to Bitcoin, meant to combat spam -- Hashcash -- become important again?
The enabling technology behind micropayments is ironically looking like a CBDC a lot more than Bitcoin (+other cryptos), for scalability reasons.
Re: AI: Markets for Lemons, and the Great Logging Off
#34Hey, you folks who are willing to pay to be part of a vetted community? Looks like Sam Altman’s WorldCoin, which is about verifiable identity, might just become a viable business. ChatGPT’s role in that strategy makes more sense now.. remember Altman is behind OpenAI? If this is part of his strategy to monopolize internet comments, then his next step is to have ChatGPT recognize its own outputs. (To deal with those W…
The current state of crypto is such that I wouldn't trust anything crypto-related with my video game saves, let alone my identity.
Re: AI: Markets for Lemons, and the Great Logging Off
#35Hey, you folks who are willing to pay to be part of a vetted community? Looks like Sam Altman’s WorldCoin, which is about verifiable identity, might just become a viable business. ChatGPT’s role in that strategy makes more sense now.. remember Altman is behind OpenAI? If this is part of his strategy to monopolize internet comments, then his next step is to have ChatGPT recognize its own outputs. (To deal with those W…
The current state of crypto is such that I wouldn't trust anything crypto-related with my video game saves, let alone my identity.
I think WorldCoin is more popular with the Third World, who simultaneously are more willing to spam and less concerned about rights. Should have called it ThirdWorldCoin. The prophet having renown away from home etc /s
Re: AI: Markets for Lemons, and the Great Logging Off
#36The idea raised in this article is interesting. However, if the technology on the side of the spam producers improves, platforms will follow and improve their technology for recognizing spam. So, yes, there might be some temporary lemons failures on some platforms, but I would not expect a big logging off to happen on the long-run. After all I think this is a cat-and-mouse game of superior technology in producing / i…
> platforms will follow and improve their technology for recognizing spam Written language has patterns, and your response and mine also follow these patterns. Language models like GPT-3 and ChatGPT can learn these patterns because there are finite ways in which humans write text. ChatGPT responses are easy to recognize because it was fine-tuned with specific data to meet chatbot requirements and provide Q&A style re…
So what? How much time in day, do you think you spend reading what random people you dont know are saying?
Who this effects is jobless people.
Re: AI: Markets for Lemons, and the Great Logging Off
#37> Second, I think people will start to put a premium on accounts being "verified" as genuinely human. IMO this is long overdue. And I think people should/will eventually even pay for this feature. > Powerful nation states will be more than eager to assist them in this regard. I agree - world governments could consider even subsidizing this in some way in order to foster fewer anonymous botnets sowing discord. The web…
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Re: AI: Markets for Lemons, and the Great Logging Off
#38This article gets it. ChatGPT heralds the end of free user comments, forums and social media. Because when everything and everyone online is fake, why even log on to Insta or FB or Twitter? The internet will still be useful, but Web 2.0 will go the way of the dodo unless it adapts and the easiest way to cut down on spam is to charge users money for access. Spam campaigns are a lot less lucrative when it costs money t…
The volumes of email spam are absolutely staggering, but its detection and filtering, with minuscule amounts of false negatives, are nearly perfect. It has been largely a solved problem for a decade to which we give very little credit. Me personally, it blows my mind out of the water every time I'm reminded of it.
Re: AI: Markets for Lemons, and the Great Logging Off
#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
There is as much spam as there is email. Did people quit email?
There is more than twice spam as there is legitimate email (source: ran a corporate email server). However, so far most spam is automatically detected. In the near future, It's likely that this is no longer going to be the case and in the moment that most of your email is spam you are going to stop trusting everything you receive. Even right now inside corps people already (should?) distrust and double checks everyth…
Obviously people didn’t quit email. But I also don’t “engage” with email with anything near the intensity that I used to. 20 years ago…? One of the hottest romcoms ever, was built around our feverish engagement with email: “You’ve got Mail!” Can you imagine that being a pitch for a romcom next year? They’d laugh you out of the room. Because while people still use email, they don’t engage with it the way they used to.
I think this sense of disengagement is what the author is trying to metaphorically capture with the idea of “logging off”. It might just be my family and peer groups, but I do sense this in general. The internet and its various “social” constructs feel more and more like they’ve crossed that line in dating relationships where the other person becomes “clingy/needy” and it starts to grow wearisome and cringy. I think that causes people to quietly disengage.
Re: AI: Markets for Lemons, and the Great Logging Off
#40> Second, I think people will start to put a premium on accounts being "verified" as genuinely human. IMO this is long overdue. And I think people should/will eventually even pay for this feature. > Powerful nation states will be more than eager to assist them in this regard. I agree - world governments could consider even subsidizing this in some way in order to foster fewer anonymous botnets sowing discord. The web…
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