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Re: Facebook addiction increases depression severity among already depressed people

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Any research on Hacker News addiction? Asking for a friend.

LOL, let me give it a try. HN addiction increases depression severity among already depressed developers because of all the fancy cool new stuffs others are playing around while they are stuck with outdated tech stack in day jobs just for money.

>just for money

And in certain slices of the globe there isn't even much of that! No risk of workaholism.

Re: Facebook addiction increases depression severity among already depressed people

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Overall, yes to your post, but it does not touch several related aspects that is driving the piling on ( and you do not expand on the fact that they are designed for addiction, which translated means that they are made to tailor made for any individual to be addicted to it ). I honestly question that assertion. I would venture to say that most people here are well aware of how social media operates and how general po…

> This is admittedly the hard part, but I can absolutely imagine appropriate regulation should social media get to the point it is actually destructive to the fabric of society. I am willing to sacrifice some of the internet for it too given how much of a cesspool it has become. Reading this, I'd even rephrase it stronger: I can't imagine any regulation that would address the root cause of the problem without violati…

It is a fascinating question and I am officially now just engaging in a hypothetical. I want to keep it US-centric for now. Flying and driving in US was deemed a privilege and not a right despite very clearly making citizen's life either very difficult ( with not being able to fly ) or downright impossible in some locales ( based on how US is driver centric ).

What makes internet so different from driving that would likely result in a different legal categorization?

Re: Facebook addiction increases depression severity among already depressed people

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post #107

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The problem is that you can’t take it away. If it’s not fb it’s tiktok, or youtube, or instagram, or reddit, or HN, or emails, or rss feeds, or food, or video games, or …

> fb ... tiktok, or youtube, or instagram, or reddit, or HN, or emails, or rss feeds, or food, or video games Is the question: which of these is not like the rest? Furthermore, you deny two things: firstly, that the influence of facebook is real, and secondly, that other forms of (social) media can have a different effect. E.g., RSS is totally unlike facebook. And let's ignore you mentioned food.

I want to read the first-person essay about someone in the 2020s dealing with depression and developing a problematic avoidant-escapist relationship with emails. Does this person even exist? Maybe; if so, I am fascinated.

Re: Facebook addiction increases depression severity among already depressed people

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It might even be "sitting inside, looking through the window at other people sitting inside but surely having a better time than you" . Social media is for presenting the highlights of your life. For a lot of depressed or even just gullible people it is easy to generalize from that. I have acquaintances who blew up their personal lives in a search for that elusive "perfect life".

> I have acquaintances who blew up their personal lives in a search for that elusive "perfect life". Is this in the typical sense of spending beyond their means, or do you have other anecdotes? I am a highly compensated tech worker at a FAANG who overcame US immigration and other challenges to get here, and many people would trade their spot with mine. Yet, I am so unhappy and burned out by work that I don’t think ab…

No, nothing like that. Actually they abandoned their partners and family because the life they were living didn't look like the ones in the dream pictures others posted. Having hundreds or thousands of Facebook "friends" meant seeing an endless stream of exotic vacation photos, fancy restaurant photos, grand gestures, and so on. Put together it somehow looked like that was how everyone else's day to day looked like, while the day to day of the people I'm talking about was just the regular-well-off life. Only a few vacations per year instead of every day, only a couple of restaurants per week, grand gestures only on special occasions instead of every few days.

After a few years of "drifting", failing to find anything close to what they had before, I lost contact with those people so not sure where they ended up. I sometimes stumble on the blog of one of them and it looks like they're still searching, years and years later.

So in some sense this was worse than spending too much. Money is fungible and you can make it up eventually, particularly if you have good people around you. Good people are not fungible and getting them back is a lot harder, sometimes next to impossible.

Re: Facebook addiction increases depression severity among already depressed people

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I decided to go monk mode for a year. No friends, no family, no social media, no distractions. I focused on learning cooking, yoga etc. Spent most of my time either in my studio apartment or solo travelling. The results were huge, I went from an anxious depressed mess to someone who enjoys waking up, which is a very basic thing, but when you are depressed you hate that you have to wake up and go through life. I recom…

This sounds extreme, but none the less I agree people should try to change something. Most recommend to start exercising. Easiest way to do this is to simply say I'm the kind of person that runs / bikes / works out (don't give yourself the option to decide). Simply say on Saturday's I do a run (rain or shine), then say Tuesday's and Saturdays, etc. In no time you're doing it 3+ times a week. From one good habit other…

it's good advice to tell yourself that "I'm the kind of person who does X." We can shift/expand our identities about ourselves to build better habits. It's like, to quit smoking, we must remind ourselves that "I'm not a smoker/ a person who smokes anymore."

Re: Facebook addiction increases depression severity among already depressed people

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First they help users connect with each other then they make them pay with their attention, attention spans, memory and mood. Then they show you therapy ads as well. Loop. A decade ago I used to think how difficult it would be to compete in this world when everyone around me was so smart at what they did. Fast forward, it has never been easier to progress as I see the matrix (sort of). My experience with de-addiction…

>morning brew at EoD

What is this?

Re: Facebook addiction increases depression severity among already depressed people

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post #107

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> Taking away facebook will not make them un-depressed. Although I agree that Facebook isn't the problem here, taking it away might be a necessary first step.

The problem is that you can’t take it away. If it’s not fb it’s tiktok, or youtube, or instagram, or reddit, or HN, or emails, or rss feeds, or food, or video games, or …

No we’re not taking it away from you, we’re just … marshaling your daily tasks to make rooms for vital additions solely for your recovery. Now get up, get clothed, and stand over that X marked in your backyard. Good. I’ll count from 1800, 1799, 1798…

Re: Facebook addiction increases depression severity among already depressed people

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post #90

I decided to go monk mode for a year. No friends, no family, no social media, no distractions. I focused on learning cooking, yoga etc. Spent most of my time either in my studio apartment or solo travelling. The results were huge, I went from an anxious depressed mess to someone who enjoys waking up, which is a very basic thing, but when you are depressed you hate that you have to wake up and go through life. I recom…

I don't think isolating yourself from the world and getting rid of all your friends and family is a good suggestion for most people.

Depends on what kind of family and friends you have.
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