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Re: Ventura Issues

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Post by DrewADesign »

userbinator wrote: post #51

Those on the Windows side are just as if not more angered by Windows 11 too. The software industry has become an example of quantity over quality, features over fixes, change and novelty over stability, diversity over excellence. Instead of gradually approaching perfection as bugs are fixed over time, software gets needlessly rewritten and introduces a bunch of new bugs. Thanks to the wholly misguided focus on "devel…

I recently switched to Windows because I need some performance-intensive windows-only software. I'm convinced that Microsoft lets marketing write the feature bullet list and then tells product managers to assign arbitrary dates to each bullet entry and use that as their project timeline. Quality is absolute garbage. Microsoft 365 Family is shockingly bad. The 6tb of storage you get for $10/mo (spread out over 6 accounts) might not actually be worth it.

Re: Ventura Issues

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Post by rayiner »

The static IP address entry field is messed up. It starts with blanks and dots but entering numbers doesn’t overwrite the blanks like in every IP address entry box since forever.

Re: Ventura Issues

#63

Post by Waterluvian »

semireg wrote: post #57

I ignore macOS updates as a self preservation technique until something forces my hand such as buying a new computer or Xcode complaining it only runs on a particular release. Between macOS, cpu architecture changes, and the fast pace of Electron’s release cycle (node ABI vs native modules), I’m constantly terrified about keeping builds running. Each upgrade … I’m just clenching my chest waiting for the other shoe to…

There was a time in late high school, early university where OSX updates were like Christmas. I’d be so excited for all these new empowerments. There was such wonder and opportunity to be seized.

But now I’m much like you. I’ve got stuff to do and digital places to be! If I don’t need an update, I don’t want one.

Re: Ventura Issues

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Post by gymbeaux »

BirAdam wrote: post #7
mberning wrote: post #5

Apple is badly, badly in need of a “code red” style freeze on new features for macOS and iOS. Even very basic things which should be rock solid are not. I just had a kernel panic when copying files to an smb mount. No issue when I do the same copy mounted as nfs. Ridiculous in this era.

Long ago, the release speed in the entire industry accelerated. I knew that quality would nose dive as a result because there was no way to develop and fully test an entire OS (even for a phone) as frequently as each is being released. All operating systems are now effectively permanently in beta.

But Apple has had the right idea- they release a new version of their desktop and mobile OSes about once a year. I would surmise that their OS reliability and stability issues have more to do with the switch from Objective-C to Swift than anything else. Heck they change Swift dramatically each year (or they did in the first few years). Swift 2 was RADICALLY different from Swift 1. Swift 3 was radically different from Swift 2...

Re: Ventura Issues

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Post by rayiner »

userbinator wrote: post #51

Those on the Windows side are just as if not more angered by Windows 11 too. The software industry has become an example of quantity over quality, features over fixes, change and novelty over stability, diversity over excellence. Instead of gradually approaching perfection as bugs are fixed over time, software gets needlessly rewritten and introduces a bunch of new bugs. Thanks to the wholly misguided focus on "devel…

It’s not even “the quantity over quality.” Early OS X point releases would get big new features like hardware accelerated compositing. What does Ventura even add? The last big new feature was APFS becoming the default back in 2017.

I guess it’s better than Microsoft, where Metro/WinUI/web rewrites of core apps actually remove tons of long-standing features.

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Post by gymbeaux »

thought_alarm wrote: post #59
locusofself wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd like to understand what "This OS is a Lion" means. Is that a commonly used phrase?

OS X 10.7 (Lion) was the first post-iPhone version of MacOS, released in late 2011. It was a bumpy release and it's not remembered fondly, but it introduced a number of fundamental features that modern iOS/Mac users depend on, like iCloud. The previous version from 2009, OS X 10.6, was essentially a maintenance/refinement release with few new features while the rest of Apple was heavily focused on launching the iPhon…

10.6 Snow Leopard was the Windows XP of Apple. 10.8 Mountain Lion was also solid.

Re: Ventura Issues

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Post by gymbeaux »

Waterluvian wrote: post #63
semireg wrote: post #57

I ignore macOS updates as a self preservation technique until something forces my hand such as buying a new computer or Xcode complaining it only runs on a particular release. Between macOS, cpu architecture changes, and the fast pace of Electron’s release cycle (node ABI vs native modules), I’m constantly terrified about keeping builds running. Each upgrade … I’m just clenching my chest waiting for the other shoe to…

There was a time in late high school, early university where OSX updates were like Christmas. I’d be so excited for all these new empowerments. There was such wonder and opportunity to be seized. But now I’m much like you. I’ve got stuff to do and digital places to be! If I don’t need an update, I don’t want one.

I used to take off of work to watch WWDC live. Now I just read the MacRumors post when I'm in the bathroom.

Re: Ventura Issues

#69

Post by wildrhythms »

AJRF wrote: post #21

The new system settings app is painful. It freezes for up to 30 seconds at a time after I take an action. It often goes completely blank, it flickers a lot and in general it's so hard to find stuff in it - the search is bad and they have just jammed settings in places that don't make sense. I am on a 2020 MacBook Air with m1 chip, 16GB ram - wouldn't expect performance problems in the settings app, yet here we are. I…

Seriously, what was wrong with the old tried and true System Preferences? Everything had a recognizable icon, every icon arranged in simple rows, and every icon lay before me in a single window.

Now, I'm forced to scroll the pane on the left (unclear since scroll bars are invisible by default) to find the outermost setting, and then deal with nested navigation confined inside of the right pane. Also, gone are the recognizable icons, replaced with confusingly similar colored gradients and a hieroglyph icon that is unreadable because the contrast ratio terrible against the gradient. Also, the 'search' causes the entire left navigational pane to go blank and replace itself with search results, rather than 'show me the way' like it used to. Extremely disappointing!

Old: https://i.imgur.com/sZY9dUw.png

New: https://i.imgur.com/NGj7I69.jpg

Re: Ventura Issues

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Post by jeffbee »

After reading this I learned there is a 13.1 available that macOS has failed to install or even mention, despite automatic updates being enabled. Apparently it came out 2 weeks ago.
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