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Re: Ventura Issues

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Post by AJRF »

The new system settings app is painful. It freezes for up to 30 seconds at a time after I take an action.

It often goes completely blank, it flickers a lot and in general it's so hard to find stuff in it - the search is bad and they have just jammed settings in places that don't make sense.

I am on a 2020 MacBook Air with m1 chip, 16GB ram - wouldn't expect performance problems in the settings app, yet here we are.

I also get that issue with Safari where it freezes the entire system, that happens on my work laptop which is an M1 Max with 32GB RAM

Re: Ventura Issues

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Post by AJRF »

gjsman-1000 wrote: post #16

Can I get a word in for Screen Time / Parental Controls being completely broken for years? (One bug of many: “Internet Filtering” randomly fails open after a few hours, allowing private browsing and no filtering on child accounts.)

I've had to turn it off in Ventura. Sometimes it will just decide it's time for downtime outside of the schedule. Tried everything to fix it including turning off syncing of Screen Time settings, changing schedule, resetting all the settings, restarting computer. Nope, will still do it every few hours.

Re: Ventura Issues

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Post by Orlan »

This OS "upgrade" has been annoying. At least I'm not the only one with issues, and I have some of the same issues listed listed here. I hadn't seen them documented elsewhere.

I waited until the first point release to upgrade in hope of a seamless transition, but instead I've been keeping a list of issues. I've been meaning to do a writeup (or at lease a tweet), but haven't done so for the same reason I still haven't spent time trying to fix them. It's many small annoying things. There might be a way to fix some of them (like the generic icons for some filetypes, or my NAS not mounting at startup, or Finder constantly crashing), but so far I've decided to keep my sanity.

Re: Ventura Issues

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Post by [deleted] »

simonbarker87 wrote: post #14
locusofself wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd like to understand what "This OS is a Lion" means. Is that a commonly used phrase?

My understanding is that OSX Lion was a release that changed a lot and had many bugs, looks like Ventura could be the same

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Re: Ventura Issues

#25

Post by 1over137 »

thewebcount wrote: post #3

Some of these may not be bugs. For example, I actually prefer this: > Mail now loses the mailbox selection when you start a search, instead changing the selection to All Mailboxes, which is rarely the scope that I want. This one isn’t new to Ventura. This happened all the time to me as far back as Big Sur: > External drives still take minutes to mount or sometimes never mount automatically. Sometimes I can manually m…

>The real question is, has the author opened Feedback Requests about these things? If not, don’t expect them to get fixed any time soon.

And if you do open 'Feedback Requests', don't expect them to get fixed any time soon.

Re: Ventura Issues

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Post by jviotti »

One of mine: sometimes (50% of the times?) turning on my MacBook Pro for the first time leads to the Dock using very high CPU and making switching between desktops abnormally slow. The fix is to force-kill the Dock app, and make it restart again by itself.

Re: Ventura Issues

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Post by sixdimensional »

rektide wrote: post #15
BirAdam wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Long ago, the release speed in the entire industry accelerated. I knew that quality would nose dive as a result because there was no way to develop and fully test an entire OS (even for a phone) as frequently as each is being released. All operating systems are now effectively permanently in beta.

It's not just about release speed. The whole industry is aligned towards new, towards features, towards impact. Going around making the world better doesnt rank, isnt visible work, isnt tracked or roadmaps, isnt rewarded, and frankly, it's not as fun being a 0.1X hacker tackling the gross ugly old shit, especially when the org wont say thank you either.

This is where technology goes from being disruptive in a positive sense, to being disruptive in a negative one.

I understand the relentless need to innovate, do cool stuff, etc., but somewhere along the way a line was crossed.

A good time to throw in the term exnovation.. there's a reason you rarely hear it, but there's a reason somebody came up with it.

Re: Ventura Issues

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Post by nnx »

simonbarker87 wrote: post #14
locusofself wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd like to understand what "This OS is a Lion" means. Is that a commonly used phrase?

My understanding is that OSX Lion was a release that changed a lot and had many bugs, looks like Ventura could be the same

I'll wait for Mountain Ventura

Re: Ventura Issues

#30

Post by skissane »

mberning wrote: post #5

Apple is badly, badly in need of a “code red” style freeze on new features for macOS and iOS. Even very basic things which should be rock solid are not. I just had a kernel panic when copying files to an smb mount. No issue when I do the same copy mounted as nfs. Ridiculous in this era.

I don’t understand why Apple doesn’t invest more in testing and bug-fixing. It is not as if they can’t afford it. Bugs lead to unhappy users, which in turn leads to brand damage. You’d think it would make business sense to spend more on improving quality and hence preventing further such damage, possibly even reversing some of the damage already done-convince people “Apple is different now”, some people will forget their past bad experiences
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