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Re: Ventura Issues

#11

Post by yborg »

Most of these frankly seem like small beer and to be expected in an early release of an OS. I also am not sure how a Git Tower issue is a Ventura problem.

That said, I'm still running Monterey, having amended my practice of waiting until the after the first point release to now waiting until the 2nd to do a full version update because of Apple's tendency in recent years to introduce major bugs which are not compensated by major functionality improvements. Updating System Settings to look like iOS serves Apple's needs, not mine.

Re: Ventura Issues

#14

Post by simonbarker87 »

locusofself wrote: post #13
whywhywhywhy wrote: post #4

The System Preferences redesign was a huge red flag. This OS is a Lion, no thanks.

I'd like to understand what "This OS is a Lion" means. Is that a commonly used phrase?

My understanding is that OSX Lion was a release that changed a lot and had many bugs, looks like Ventura could be the same

Re: Ventura Issues

#15

Post by rektide »

BirAdam wrote: post #7
mberning wrote: post #5

Apple is badly, badly in need of a “code red” style freeze on new features for macOS and iOS. Even very basic things which should be rock solid are not. I just had a kernel panic when copying files to an smb mount. No issue when I do the same copy mounted as nfs. Ridiculous in this era.

Long ago, the release speed in the entire industry accelerated. I knew that quality would nose dive as a result because there was no way to develop and fully test an entire OS (even for a phone) as frequently as each is being released. All operating systems are now effectively permanently in beta.

It's not just about release speed. The whole industry is aligned towards new, towards features, towards impact.

Going around making the world better doesnt rank, isnt visible work, isnt tracked or roadmaps, isnt rewarded, and frankly, it's not as fun being a 0.1X hacker tackling the gross ugly old shit, especially when the org wont say thank you either.

Re: Ventura Issues

#16

Post by gjsman-1000 »

Can I get a word in for Screen Time / Parental Controls being completely broken for years?

(One bug of many: “Internet Filtering” randomly fails open after a few hours, allowing private browsing and no filtering on child accounts.)

Re: Ventura Issues

#17

Post by avidphantasm »

rektide wrote: post #15
BirAdam wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Long ago, the release speed in the entire industry accelerated. I knew that quality would nose dive as a result because there was no way to develop and fully test an entire OS (even for a phone) as frequently as each is being released. All operating systems are now effectively permanently in beta.

It's not just about release speed. The whole industry is aligned towards new, towards features, towards impact. Going around making the world better doesnt rank, isnt visible work, isnt tracked or roadmaps, isnt rewarded, and frankly, it's not as fun being a 0.1X hacker tackling the gross ugly old shit, especially when the org wont say thank you either.

I would pay $100 per year for macOS if it meant they would go slower and make it rock solid.

Re: Ventura Issues

#18

Post by [deleted] »

yborg wrote: post #11

Most of these frankly seem like small beer and to be expected in an early release of an OS. I also am not sure how a Git Tower issue is a Ventura problem. That said, I'm still running Monterey, having amended my practice of waiting until the after the first point release to now waiting until the 2nd to do a full version update because of Apple's tendency in recent years to introduce major bugs which are not compensat…

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Re: Ventura Issues

#20

Post by kmonsen »

akerl_ wrote: post #12
byteduck wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually, I think 10.7 was a Lion ;)

I think you've missed what the parent comment is saying: that this release, to them, is akin to 10.7.

To be honest, it was very easy to miss what parent was saying. Your comment helps clarify though, thanks!
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