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One question that always seems to be unclear and insufficiently negotiated is reciprocity. What is the US going to offer in return. If they do offer to reciprocate, it actually needs to be delivered before the deal is live. That said, I think it is a shitty deal for these leaky, insecure, bad faith entities to be able to negotiate off to the side with our sensitive personal data like this.
How would the US react to the same request from EU's police? Would they give direct access to their people's biometric data? Conversely, what would the EU do if that same request came from another nation instead of the USA? What about Brazil, Japan, China?
Given the US has army bases all in and around Europe, more than any European country, I bet the US wouldn't comply. It's rarely talked about, but you gotta imagine, the fact the US controls most of the land and sea is a big factor in how diplomatic issues are resolved. I don't think this is a great thing, btw.
That's been declining: 430,000 US troops in Europe in the '50s, and about 60,000 at the beginning of this year.
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I haven't been back there since 2007 and have no intention to ever go back there. I missed a couple of funerals of friends because of that but the typical 'welcome' (I use the term loosely) afforded by DHS to visitors to the USA has persuaded me that I have better things to do with my life. The decision not to re-visit was made somewhere between the point where my shoes were confiscated because they might be used as…
Did you read TFA? It would only be used for people entering the US.
US government demands direct police access to European biometric data. The "Enhanced Border Security Partnership" poses an unprecedented threat to civil liberties in Europe. Talk is streaming right now https://streaming.media.ccc.de/jev22/hip1 https://digit.so36.net https://pretalx.c3voc.de/hip-berlin-2022/talk/JYX7JA/
The streams seems to be down.
I sincerely hope that the EU will give the appropriate but unprintable response to this request. At the time the biometric data was first collected plenty of people warned about this exact thing and we were repeatedly assured that it would never happen. Let's see if that is still true today. Never is such a long time...
The way it looks to me (sorry, not trying to offend) is that while the EU may be an OK construct for the peacetime prosperity it is not functioning well during the times of conflict. As of today, it does not have military strength, energy security or economic strength from which it can deliver such an answer. And when you have to depend on someone else for the protection you have few options for saying "no". My 2c.
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Given the US has army bases all in and around Europe, more than any European country, I bet the US wouldn't comply. It's rarely talked about, but you gotta imagine, the fact the US controls most of the land and sea is a big factor in how diplomatic issues are resolved. I don't think this is a great thing, btw.
https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crisi_di_Sigonella In the 80s USA sent troops in italy to kidnap a terrorist that had surrendered himself to italy. They had to call up all the available carabinieri on the island to counter the USA troops. Not one has in mind with "allied nation".
https://www.icij.org/investigations/collateraldamage/clerics...
Am I the only one that doesn't really consider "fingerprints and facial images" to be biometric data? When I think "biometric", I think hair samples, DNA, blood type, even though I know fingerprints and eye color are technically biometric.
Probably the most interesting part of this is if states don’t integrate by 2027 they will no longer be eligible for the Visa Waiver Program (VWP). That adds a lot of friction for citizens of that state to travel to the U.S. for any reason.
To be honest I am already avoiding to travel to the US as much as I can. No appetite for hours of queues at security and passport controls. Their airports are worst than many third world countries.
No idea where you live but:
https://www.cbp.gov/travel/trusted-traveler-programs/global-...
This also gives you TSA Pre. It’s cut my average time spent queuing in U.S. airports and at the border by an order of magnitude. Worth the effort.
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But is it really? The EU can just respond with: "no". And while that would hurt the economy of the EU it would also hurt the economy of the US. I do not really see any reason for the EU to say yes to this unless the EU gets something in return.
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Is there any proof of that?
What lead you to believe this?
Whether it's good local privacy laws in your country or a good privacy-respecting TOS from a company, both are basically worthless when a bigger entity comes barging into the picture. So your government collects biometric data but passes laws promising not to misuse it... you may very well find that those promises are worth less than dirt when a country with leverage over your own starts making demands that your gove…