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Re: I'm done with Google

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Post by vishnumohandas »

helij wrote: post #74
friend_and_foe wrote: post #32

I am proud to say I don't use a single google service, and haven't in years. Now, if someone sends me a YouTube link, I watch it (in an invidious instance, of course) and I use some metasearch engines which rely on google to a large degree, hut I don't have a google account, I use no google services, have no google applications installed anywhere. The same applies to Meta and Microsoft as well, and some others. I hav…

I applaud you. I do my best as well using Linux whenever I can and having all my email on Zoho. I struggle with finding a solution for sharing photos via mobile. The whole family is in Apple ecosystem. I feel that if I don't want to spend enormous amount of time on setting up, securing and maintaining systems that I need to use big names solutions.

Have you tried using ente[1] for sharing photos?

Disclosure: founder here.

You can share albums via links, and you can even allow your family to add photos[1] to your albums. They don't need an account or an app. All your photos are stored in original quality, e2ee.

If you've feedback, please let me[3] know, would love to understand what we can do better.

[1]: https://ente.io

[2]: https://ente.io/blog/collect-photos

[3]: vishnu[at]ente.io

Re: I'm done with Google

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Post by _cenw »

LAC-Tech wrote: post #75
_cenw wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately it looks like the kind of person who prefers a file over an app with a magical cloud is becoming more and more rare as apps erode the very notion of such concepts. It's like trying to explain to your aunt that "the fediverse is like email" when email itself might as well be a Google service for most people.

There's way too much gnashing on teeth on HN about what the masses prefer, or what's popular. I'm a technical user. On a website full of technical users. We really should stop considering their needs over our own even in recreational discussions.

I was making a point about "despite being able to afford". I really would like to support the things I enjoy. But aside from a lot of people extracting value between artists and commercial art, I also have almost no ability to pay for the media I consume without being forced into a hellish ecosystem. And that's a result of everyone around us having the notion being able to "own" media erased from their expectations.

Hell, sometimes something isn't available in my region through any legal means.

Re: I'm done with Google

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Post by survirtual »

unity1001 wrote: post #199
JodieBenitez wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Even a hardcore pirate like me tried to do the right thing when it comes to music - I got Spotify. This is not the right thing to do. Spotify is peanuts to artists. If you want to do the right thing, buy music at Bandcamp: you get files you can keep forever and artists get a fair share of your money.

> This is not the right thing to do. Spotify is peanuts to artists. If you want to do the right thing, buy music at Bandcamp The right thing to do is to directly subscribe to their Patreon. It not only gets you access to exclusives, behind the scenes and even events, it also crowdfunds the future projects of the artist.

I think subscriptions are part of the problem. I personally compensate artists with a one time payment on Bandcamp, download permanent files to my NAS, and replicate them in devices I use for music.

I don’t want recurring payments.

Re: I'm done with Google

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Post by Jorengarenar »

danbulant wrote: post #244
djhworld wrote: post #207

Earlier quoted context omitted.

IANAL but I think the license you buy from google play or apple or whatever is not a license for the content, it's a license to access the content from the provider through a specific player/app. So getting content from musicbackups dot com or whatever would not be a transferable right or gray area. People will do it anyway though

Not sure about US, but for example in Czechia, you can download any content legally - as long as you don't share it, it's fine. Torrents do share it though, so that is a gray area. You also have a right to make a personal backup/copy of the content, again, as long as you don't share that copy (projecting for multiple people is also sharing in this context).

>in Czechia, you can download any content legally - as long as you don't share it, it's fine.

Very similar law in Poland: you can legally pirate music, books, comics, movies, images for yours own (including your family and closest friends) use.

What's interesting, there is an exception for software and video games - those are always illegal.

Re: I'm done with Google

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Post by encryptluks2 »

ryantgtg wrote: post #195
encryptluks2 wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's full of inaccuracies and hyperbole. It isn't frank, it is exaggerated to illicit a response. For example, > So I go to google play store and go through the 50,000 security verifications. And this comment: > Google is contributing to the destruction of the concept of ownership, as are many services of the modern age. Pretty much any service that uses DRM. There is a lot to be upset with Google about, but this is…

The article doesn’t express that Google is _solely_ responsible for the destruction of the concept of ownership. That statement isn’t inaccurate. It’s perfectly reasonable to be bothered by the fact that their setup worked fine for years and then stopped working for no good reason. It sounds like you’ve “heard it before” and don’t care to hear it again. Remember that this is grandma’s setup. Sure, there are alternati…

I am not under the impression that is what happened here. It sounds like a DRM sucks period rant that someone uses Google as a scapegoat and encourages like-minded Google haters to air their grievances about wanting to quit Google.

Like I said, there are a lot of reasons to dislike Google but this post sounds like a misguided complaint. The issue likely could have been solved and maybe entirely be attributed to user error, but it didn't matter.

Re: I'm done with Google

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Post by Jorengarenar »

transcoderx wrote: post #87
choeger wrote: post #44

I said it before, but I'll repeat myself: For digital possessions, we need a clearing house. Everyone offering music, videos, etc. for sale or long-term rent, needs to register a digital copy in a standardized format with said clearing house. Every sale has to be registered there as well. Whenever the seller disables DRM or does locks out the buyer in any other way (not supporting new or old devices, closing down acc…

* cough * Blockchain * cough *

* cough * Doesn't * cough * solve * cough * anything * cough *

Re: I'm done with Google

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Post by Havoc »

m1117 wrote: post #30

It's also ridiculous how I pay for netflix, but during traveling in asia I had to use VPN to watch it. So idiotic. I should just do the same thing and not to pay.

Didn’t you know that the bits and bytes are a different colour in Asia?

Re: I'm done with Google

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Post by pwinnski »

yellow_lead wrote: post #21
usui wrote: post #16

> So I pirate the movie (please don't arrest me, it's google's fault) I really like the frank tone of the article and I wish people in general would just write unabashedly more often when it comes to stuff like this. Writers online love to dance around the idea of "pirating" their digital goods when communicating on the topic: "Ooh my 'friend' may or may not have downloaded 'xyz' movie from 'abc' website, but I don't…

Even a hardcore pirate like me tried to do the right thing when it comes to music - I got Spotify. But when I moved to Taiwan, I tried to switch my payment location to get regional pricing and they refuse to accept my Taiwan debit card. Now I pirate music or use Vanced (YouTube).

I know a number of "hardcore pirates" who pay for nearly every streaming service you can imagine, but never use the services. Instead they provide some sort of "moral cover" for their piracy. Whatever works for them, I guess.

Re: I'm done with Google

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Post by zirgs »

JodieBenitez wrote: post #101
yellow_lead wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even a hardcore pirate like me tried to do the right thing when it comes to music - I got Spotify. But when I moved to Taiwan, I tried to switch my payment location to get regional pricing and they refuse to accept my Taiwan debit card. Now I pirate music or use Vanced (YouTube).

> Even a hardcore pirate like me tried to do the right thing when it comes to music - I got Spotify. This is not the right thing to do. Spotify is peanuts to artists. If you want to do the right thing, buy music at Bandcamp: you get files you can keep forever and artists get a fair share of your money.

Spotify is peanuts to artists, but without Spotify I would not even discover most of the artists that I listen to.

Re: I'm done with Google

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Post by zirgs »

cassianoleal wrote: post #252
Closi wrote: post #214

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The right thing to do is to identify where the artist lives, then withdraw unmarked and untraceable cash which you post through their mailbox as a 'gift'. This means that you can guarantee all the money goes directly to the artist.

If you mean that as opposed to part of it being converted to taxes, I'd argue that's not quite "the right thing". Or does the artist not benefit from public goods and services, like roads, public lighting, police, firefighting, etc etc etc?

It's the artist's responsibility to pay their own taxes. And yes - anonymous gifts like that are taxable income too.
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