I like this log used to protect the border: https://www.google.com/maps/@45.0108844,-73.3349375,3a,75y,1...
That's not a log, it's a military-grade, arboreal-derived perimeter defense system to stop all unapproved international vehicular traffic.
The US-Canada border cuts through the Haskell Free Library and Opera House
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Re: The US-Canada border cuts through the Haskell Free Library and Opera House
#32one piece that is omitted from this is how the border is enforced. From the looks of it, unless you’re looking at becoming employed here they don’t really check your citizenship. That’s a win in my book. Reminds me that when I was a kid you could travel to / from Canada without a passport (only nation with that privilege if I recall correctly) and now you can’t. I recall no real good reasoning for it other than the D…
You still can as a kid via land, but a birth certificate is required. The parents do need passports though…
Re: The US-Canada border cuts through the Haskell Free Library and Opera House
#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
I’d imagine many of the same considerations come into play when a structure straddles a state line in the US. I wonder how that’s handled?
Property taxes in NH&MA. But since the mailing address is NH no income tax.
Are there two separate parcel IDs? One for each authority in the respective state? Do you pay property tax on the full acreage to each state or only on the partial acreage in each state?
Re: The US-Canada border cuts through the Haskell Free Library and Opera House
#34It's interesting to see the efforts to lock down our once permeable borders succeeding in recent decades. It seems that for much of our history we had no issue with free passage across, but we have in my lifetime used the politics of fear to militarize our borders. Obviously some will disagree but this seems to me a regressive change.
Freedom of movement is tenuous, and one of the greater paradoxes of the modern "libertarian" movement. The freedom isn't even universally supported on the left -- democratic socialist countries rely on high taxes and low economic inequality to maintain their systems, which, the reasoning goes, is unsustainable in the face of an unrestricted influx of economic refugees.
Having been born in East Germany I can assure you that the "Left" is not a proponent of free movement and that they will gladly attempt to shoot you for trying to escape from socialist paradise.
Calling US Democrats "socialist" for wanting things like universal free health care makes me cringe in light of that.
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#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
While the border looks extremely porous, the reality is that it is heavily monitored. You will be met by the police or border patrol if you cross in the wrong place or even if you simply loiter near the border. EDIT: In response to the skepticism, here is a source: https://www.buzzfeed.com/ishmaeldaro/us-canada-border-photos This Photographer Spent Three Years Documenting The Canada-U.S. Border Along the way, Rutkaus…
I've spent time in a few of these wacky rural Canadian border places and for the places I went to, it didn't seem that likely one'd be caught in many spots, it's just the consequences if one does are potentially quite severe, and there's a pretty good degree of self policing of the honor system as word gets around a small town real fast. (Unless enough people wish to keep certain crossings secret... interesting idea.…
Sounds about right. The CA-US border is extremely long and sparsely populated in most areas. Reckless snowmobile use is a common thing in the northern lower 50. The worst is drunk snowmobilers going 90 mph.
Re: The US-Canada border cuts through the Haskell Free Library and Opera House
#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've spent time in a few of these wacky rural Canadian border places and for the places I went to, it didn't seem that likely one'd be caught in many spots, it's just the consequences if one does are potentially quite severe, and there's a pretty good degree of self policing of the honor system as word gets around a small town real fast. (Unless enough people wish to keep certain crossings secret... interesting idea.…
Sounds about right. The CA-US border is extremely long and sparsely populated in most areas. Reckless snowmobile use is a common thing in the northern lower 50. The worst is drunk snowmobilers going 90 mph.
northern lower 50?
Re: The US-Canada border cuts through the Haskell Free Library and Opera House
#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sounds about right. The CA-US border is extremely long and sparsely populated in most areas. Reckless snowmobile use is a common thing in the northern lower 50. The worst is drunk snowmobilers going 90 mph.
northern lower 50?
That's what Canuckistan calls America. ;)
And they don't have many snowmobile issues in Florida.
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#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The freedom isn't even universally supported on the left It could be argued from a "leftist" position (whatever that means nowadays) that: it's mostly working class people that need to compete with immigrants. If the immigrants are undocumented or very poor, they are more likely to tolerate lower wages and unsafe working conditions, meaning that I (if I was a working class American) would have less negotiating powe…
> It could be argued from a "leftist" position (whatever that means nowadays) that: it's mostly working class people that need to compete with immigrants. If the immigrants are undocumented or very poor, they are more likely to tolerate lower wages and unsafe working conditions, meaning that I (if I was a working class American) would have less negotiating power when it comes to my wages and work conditions, as there…
It might feel like a cosmetic nitpicking, but if I say they are "stealing our jobs", I'm blaming and vilifying the immigrants without wanting to understand their reasons for coming here and the unfortunate situation they are in.
On the other hand, my ability to negotiate with the powerful owner class is strongly reduced if there are people that are willing to be exploited or simply don't have another choice due to their immigration status and poverty. It could be argued that more people coming in results in bad working conditions for both the immigrants and the working class, whereas the rich can take advantage of the situation and amass a fortune on the misfortune of the poor (both native and alien).
Bernie Sanders, once a prominent leftie, said in one of his honest moments that the open borders is a "Koch brothers proposal".
Re: The US-Canada border cuts through the Haskell Free Library and Opera House
#39It's interesting to see the efforts to lock down our once permeable borders succeeding in recent decades. It seems that for much of our history we had no issue with free passage across, but we have in my lifetime used the politics of fear to militarize our borders. Obviously some will disagree but this seems to me a regressive change.
Freedom of movement is tenuous, and one of the greater paradoxes of the modern "libertarian" movement. The freedom isn't even universally supported on the left -- democratic socialist countries rely on high taxes and low economic inequality to maintain their systems, which, the reasoning goes, is unsustainable in the face of an unrestricted influx of economic refugees.
Countries with freedom of movement still have limits on how many people can stay. Those are more organic than dumb border controls though: it comes down to wether you can find a job and a pay a place to stay, and those aren’t infinite.
That’s where coming in to become homeless won’t be allowed , same way housing laws will forbid staying in places that are not adequate for residency (rooms with no windows, packing 12 people in one bedroom etc.). Same for minimum wages and taxation stopping a run to the bottom if too many people come in with no value to add to the economy.
Basically you’re free to come and go, but will need to find a spot you fit in if you intend to stay.
Re: The US-Canada border cuts through the Haskell Free Library and Opera House
#40one piece that is omitted from this is how the border is enforced. From the looks of it, unless you’re looking at becoming employed here they don’t really check your citizenship. That’s a win in my book. Reminds me that when I was a kid you could travel to / from Canada without a passport (only nation with that privilege if I recall correctly) and now you can’t. I recall no real good reasoning for it other than the D…
you used to be able to walk from california to mexico through a one-way metal turnstile gate