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The Psychedelic Inspiration for Hypercard (2018)

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Re: The Psychedelic Inspiration for Hypercard (2018)

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A huge difference between HC and the web browser: almost anyone would make a HC stack, creating on the web is largely unavailable for most folks. HC was about creating not browsing.

I’m a self taught programmer, mostly for web targets. Granted my attempt to learn HyperCard began earlier and I had less tenacity in my attempt, but I found it utterly impenetrable. I learned to build for the web with View Source. Granted it’s harder to do that these days, with many assets being built and minified. But the documentation is worlds better than it was then, and the APIs are a hell of a lot more accessib…

Mac software requires a different mind set than traditional programming. Programming the Mac completely changed my perspective on programming. I was never the same afterwards.

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I did not know that… Mosaic had an edit button? What did it do?

Edited the page. Opened the html in notepad, or whatever your local editor was.

It was a toolbar button or a menu item? Did it update when you saved? I wonder what the history is there

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I did not know that… Mosaic had an edit button? What did it do?

I don't recall that, but it seem quite likely. I still use HC in Basilisk II sometimes. Dragging out Xcode for something quick and easy is overkill.

What is HC? Basilisk II seems to be a mac emulator, but I’m not getting anything for HC.

Re: The Psychedelic Inspiration for Hypercard (2018)

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Speaking of drug-inspired ideas (though it was just boring old weed), I recently had the idea that AI is the ultimate medium that will finally enable effective many-to-many communication that the Internet promised but hasn't quite delivered.

The best existing example is machine translation between languages with voice recognition and speech synthesis. While you could have a human translator, that doesn't scale. However, this is mostly just one-to-one communication.

In the last couple years, we've seen high-quality AI image generation that allows people without much artistic talent to express themselves visually. We should also see high-quality text-to-video, text-to-3D, and music before too long. ChatGPT allows poor writers to write error-free, with a defined tone (e.g. formally), clearly, and quickly. You could have the AI take your facial expressions or body language into account, or in the more distant future, directly read brain waves.

But the next revolution will be personalized AI assistants that understand each person, their interests, and how they express themselves better than they do themselves (some people already had this reaction to TikTok's algorithm). With these assistants, anybody can create a customized message that would be most effective.

The third part is the AI routing algorithm that enables each person to reach as many other interested parties as possible, which is currently at a very primitive stage (e.g. following somebody on Twitter or Facebook interest groups). Among other things there should urgency/reach/importance/mood preference.

If we put these together, any person should be able to express themselves and have their ideas reach the right people in the most effective format. It would be fun to create an experimental social network that works towards this goal, but as usual, there would be the chicken-and-egg problem of getting enough users.

Re: The Psychedelic Inspiration for Hypercard (2018)

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Thanks for this Xmas present, benbreen. I was reading Mondo2000 in the early 90s as a prepubescent while learning HyperCard. It ended up making me good friends at a particularly insane time of NYC history. I figured out how to produce music with HyperCard, using audio samples, with the 8-bit mono 22khz audio-in on the Macintosh IIsi. Using a program called Soundedit, I could build, chop and render multitrack audio fi…

Wow, this is amazing! Do you still have any of the music that resulted? Would love to hear!

Had to dig it up, threw some of the tracks up quietly on SoundCloud in 2010. Thanks for reminding me and your interest

https://soundcloud.com/filthybysunday/sets/the-lost-flatbush...

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I don't recall that, but it seem quite likely. I still use HC in Basilisk II sometimes. Dragging out Xcode for something quick and easy is overkill.

What is HC? Basilisk II seems to be a mac emulator, but I’m not getting anything for HC.

HyperCard.

Re: The Psychedelic Inspiration for Hypercard (2018)

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Thanks for this Xmas present, benbreen. I was reading Mondo2000 in the early 90s as a prepubescent while learning HyperCard. It ended up making me good friends at a particularly insane time of NYC history. I figured out how to produce music with HyperCard, using audio samples, with the 8-bit mono 22khz audio-in on the Macintosh IIsi. Using a program called Soundedit, I could build, chop and render multitrack audio fi…

A Mac IIsi was my own first computer, and I also spent quite a lot of quality time with HyperCard, ResEdit, and SoundEdit. You're going to kill me with nostalgia.

Maybe we need the nostalgia to live! :)

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Speaking of drug-inspired ideas (though it was just boring old weed), I recently had the idea that AI is the ultimate medium that will finally enable effective many-to-many communication that the Internet promised but hasn't quite delivered. The best existing example is machine translation between languages with voice recognition and speech synthesis. While you could have a human translator, that doesn't scale. Howev…

AI driven lives.

We have bits of our lives that are AI influenced, but I think people will have a relationship with their personal AI and use and trust it for running their lives.

Re: The Psychedelic Inspiration for Hypercard (2018)

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I don't recall that, but it seem quite likely. I still use HC in Basilisk II sometimes. Dragging out Xcode for something quick and easy is overkill.

What is HC? Basilisk II seems to be a mac emulator, but I’m not getting anything for HC.

You both are right. Basilisk II is a macOS emulator. I run macOS 8.1 on it. I still have my original HC disk somewhere and Danny Goodman's great book on HC script. I probably should have said that I run HC on macOS 8.1 in Basilisk II emulation.
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